1 00:00:14,150 --> 00:00:13,509 [Music] 2 00:00:17,010 --> 00:00:14,160 we 3 00:00:20,670 --> 00:00:17,020 can do something 4 00:00:20,680 --> 00:00:24,950 more than now 5 00:00:24,960 --> 00:00:36,549 we can't touch lightning 6 00:00:48,150 --> 00:00:44,869 we can do something 7 00:00:48,160 --> 00:01:01,960 we can't touch lightning 8 00:01:01,970 --> 00:01:06,550 [Music] 9 00:01:10,870 --> 00:01:08,550 yes i believe in what you haven't seen 10 00:01:11,670 --> 00:01:10,880 for weeks at a time around so much of as 11 00:01:13,429 --> 00:01:11,680 i've seen 12 00:01:16,950 --> 00:01:13,439 video with a cell phone camera so 13 00:01:20,710 --> 00:01:18,550 phenomenal at the start but don't 14 00:01:22,870 --> 00:01:20,720 overpack the card i swear i got 15 00:01:26,230 --> 00:01:22,880 something but convincing myself happens 16 00:01:28,950 --> 00:01:26,240 more up 17 00:01:31,030 --> 00:01:28,960 great catch i thought it was an asteroid 18 00:01:32,870 --> 00:01:31,040 like a baseball player on steroids 19 00:01:34,390 --> 00:01:32,880 filmed on a camera with no tape to 20 00:01:38,310 --> 00:01:34,400 handle 21 00:01:40,069 --> 00:01:38,320 split in the middle and you see any cuts 22 00:01:42,149 --> 00:01:40,079 were little 23 00:01:56,180 --> 00:01:42,159 well you know who you are you lost the 24 00:02:22,070 --> 00:02:16,570 [Music] 25 00:02:26,949 --> 00:02:24,229 thanks for the love but if it's not 26 00:02:29,420 --> 00:02:26,959 taking me above 27 00:02:30,630 --> 00:02:29,430 it'll last as long as this song 28 00:02:35,190 --> 00:02:30,640 [Music] 29 00:02:39,190 --> 00:02:37,430 no exit from the better worse and i can 30 00:02:40,869 --> 00:02:39,200 see you now 31 00:02:42,550 --> 00:02:40,879 there's something wrong with how you 32 00:02:44,150 --> 00:02:42,560 lived and now the dark prince told your 33 00:02:44,710 --> 00:02:44,160 life but you can get it back with some 34 00:02:46,630 --> 00:02:44,720 tack 35 00:02:47,830 --> 00:02:46,640 it's up to you but lighter is my back i 36 00:02:49,430 --> 00:02:47,840 know it's different but i'll never 37 00:02:50,869 --> 00:02:49,440 retract 38 00:02:53,750 --> 00:02:50,879 i know it's different but i'll never 39 00:02:57,880 --> 00:02:53,760 retract i know it's different but i'll 40 00:03:08,470 --> 00:03:03,430 [Music] 41 00:03:08,480 --> 00:03:11,589 how's it going 42 00:03:18,309 --> 00:03:15,110 we have a awesome show in store today 43 00:03:19,589 --> 00:03:18,319 um so i am super glad that you are here 44 00:03:23,110 --> 00:03:19,599 joining me 45 00:03:25,030 --> 00:03:23,120 um as you guys know i have 46 00:03:27,190 --> 00:03:25,040 you know only been researching and doing 47 00:03:30,789 --> 00:03:27,200 this stuff for a little bit of time 48 00:03:33,350 --> 00:03:30,799 so in knowing that i can admit 49 00:03:34,229 --> 00:03:33,360 that i don't know [\h__\h] um but somebody 50 00:03:37,670 --> 00:03:34,239 who may know 51 00:03:39,990 --> 00:03:37,680 something uh is grant cameron 52 00:03:41,509 --> 00:03:40,000 um and i'm super excited to talk to him 53 00:03:42,470 --> 00:03:41,519 as i've been listening to him for a 54 00:03:44,229 --> 00:03:42,480 while 55 00:03:46,390 --> 00:03:44,239 and he's just got a great head on his 56 00:03:49,190 --> 00:03:46,400 shoulders with all this stuff so 57 00:03:50,869 --> 00:03:49,200 without further ado mr grant how are you 58 00:03:52,070 --> 00:03:50,879 fine sean thanks for having me on i 59 00:03:52,949 --> 00:03:52,080 appreciate your interest in what i'm 60 00:03:56,149 --> 00:03:52,959 doing 61 00:03:59,589 --> 00:03:56,159 yeah no problem um actually 62 00:04:01,910 --> 00:03:59,599 i was just um you know to see what you 63 00:04:05,589 --> 00:04:01,920 were working on lately and everything 64 00:04:07,910 --> 00:04:05,599 i watched a video from a couple days ago 65 00:04:10,309 --> 00:04:07,920 how you were talking about disclosure 66 00:04:11,830 --> 00:04:10,319 in the process of the more it's 67 00:04:14,390 --> 00:04:11,840 mentioned the more people are talking 68 00:04:17,909 --> 00:04:14,400 about it the more it's less scary i mean 69 00:04:20,949 --> 00:04:17,919 that is so spot on 70 00:04:22,390 --> 00:04:20,959 um and makes a lot of sense uh would you 71 00:04:25,670 --> 00:04:22,400 care to elaborate on that 72 00:04:27,909 --> 00:04:25,680 at all well the the idea i have is the 73 00:04:29,590 --> 00:04:27,919 idea um that we are no different than 74 00:04:31,350 --> 00:04:29,600 any other social or political movement 75 00:04:32,469 --> 00:04:31,360 whether it be african-american rights or 76 00:04:35,830 --> 00:04:32,479 gay rights or 77 00:04:38,230 --> 00:04:35,840 all these movements from the past that 78 00:04:39,670 --> 00:04:38,240 people can say good things bad things 79 00:04:41,189 --> 00:04:39,680 everybody has their opinion 80 00:04:42,950 --> 00:04:41,199 but the more people talk about it the 81 00:04:45,110 --> 00:04:42,960 more the consciousness rises 82 00:04:46,390 --> 00:04:45,120 where eventually it's like the new york 83 00:04:49,189 --> 00:04:46,400 times what happened 84 00:04:51,430 --> 00:04:49,199 you i always been in this for 46 years 85 00:04:52,790 --> 00:04:51,440 so back in 1975 86 00:04:54,469 --> 00:04:52,800 it was a totally different world people 87 00:04:57,990 --> 00:04:54,479 don't realize that i mean it was 88 00:04:59,670 --> 00:04:58,000 um we sort of see ufology as it is now 89 00:05:01,350 --> 00:04:59,680 uh at that point it was seen to be a 90 00:05:03,110 --> 00:05:01,360 random phenomena 91 00:05:05,350 --> 00:05:03,120 uh if you had a ufo setting you were 92 00:05:06,550 --> 00:05:05,360 crazy if you had two ufo sightings even 93 00:05:07,270 --> 00:05:06,560 people in the ufo community wouldn't 94 00:05:08,790 --> 00:05:07,280 talk to you 95 00:05:11,029 --> 00:05:08,800 because it was seen as a random event 96 00:05:12,550 --> 00:05:11,039 and so what happened is over the years 97 00:05:14,790 --> 00:05:12,560 it's sort of developed 98 00:05:16,790 --> 00:05:14,800 and now we're to the point where new 99 00:05:19,909 --> 00:05:16,800 york times comes up with an article in 100 00:05:21,590 --> 00:05:19,919 on december 2017 101 00:05:22,830 --> 00:05:21,600 and it's this horrible thing where if 102 00:05:24,469 --> 00:05:22,840 you're a phd you don't want to be 103 00:05:25,670 --> 00:05:24,479 associated uh you don't want to tell 104 00:05:27,350 --> 00:05:25,680 your friends what you're into and 105 00:05:29,270 --> 00:05:27,360 suddenly the new york times does it 106 00:05:30,950 --> 00:05:29,280 and everybody and we had these ideas 107 00:05:32,790 --> 00:05:30,960 well people jump off the 108 00:05:35,189 --> 00:05:32,800 bridges and uh you know jump from 109 00:05:36,830 --> 00:05:35,199 windows and religion would collapse and 110 00:05:38,310 --> 00:05:36,840 all this kind of stuff and what happened 111 00:05:39,350 --> 00:05:38,320 absolutely it didn't happen 112 00:05:40,950 --> 00:05:39,360 and that's the whole thing because 113 00:05:42,230 --> 00:05:40,960 people were acclimatized it just sort of 114 00:05:45,029 --> 00:05:42,240 gets there it's in 115 00:05:46,870 --> 00:05:45,039 uh media it's in movies and stuff and 116 00:05:48,150 --> 00:05:46,880 people just get used to it 117 00:05:49,830 --> 00:05:48,160 to the point that it doesn't really 118 00:05:52,070 --> 00:05:49,840 affect anybody anymore so that's that's 119 00:05:53,670 --> 00:05:52,080 this idea that consciousness rises based 120 00:05:57,189 --> 00:05:53,680 upon what people are talking about 121 00:05:59,110 --> 00:05:57,199 and that's how ideas evolve yeah i mean 122 00:06:01,990 --> 00:05:59,120 the reason that really hit home for me 123 00:06:02,629 --> 00:06:02,000 is because the person i'm married to is 124 00:06:05,350 --> 00:06:02,639 wonderful 125 00:06:07,909 --> 00:06:05,360 but she doesn't necessarily dig into 126 00:06:11,189 --> 00:06:07,919 this stuff and when i asked her about it 127 00:06:13,830 --> 00:06:11,199 um and said did you hear what came out 128 00:06:14,550 --> 00:06:13,840 i mean the government's basically saying 129 00:06:17,830 --> 00:06:14,560 something 130 00:06:19,749 --> 00:06:17,840 exists that they cannot identify and she 131 00:06:21,990 --> 00:06:19,759 flat out says 132 00:06:24,550 --> 00:06:22,000 well of course we're not alone i mean 133 00:06:26,550 --> 00:06:24,560 the universe is huge that'd be silly 134 00:06:27,830 --> 00:06:26,560 you know like i'll come and i'm like 135 00:06:30,390 --> 00:06:27,840 what 136 00:06:32,230 --> 00:06:30,400 but i think that is i a lot of times i 137 00:06:33,670 --> 00:06:32,240 talk to experiences people who have had 138 00:06:35,510 --> 00:06:33,680 encounters whatever and they always are 139 00:06:38,710 --> 00:06:35,520 very upset that my 140 00:06:40,070 --> 00:06:38,720 wife my husband uh my relatives i've got 141 00:06:41,510 --> 00:06:40,080 a number of women who aren't allowed to 142 00:06:43,110 --> 00:06:41,520 see their grandchildren 143 00:06:44,550 --> 00:06:43,120 and they're they're always very upset 144 00:06:45,909 --> 00:06:44,560 about that and i said get used to it i 145 00:06:47,670 --> 00:06:45,919 think that's the pattern 146 00:06:50,150 --> 00:06:47,680 that's basically the thing my my 147 00:06:51,670 --> 00:06:50,160 ex-wife's at one point 148 00:06:54,230 --> 00:06:51,680 near the end said i think this is 149 00:06:55,430 --> 00:06:54,240 demonic and i said to myself 150 00:06:57,670 --> 00:06:55,440 is that good where do we go with this 151 00:06:59,909 --> 00:06:57,680 you know like and that's the thing is 152 00:07:00,790 --> 00:06:59,919 is you have to realize that it is your 153 00:07:03,270 --> 00:07:00,800 your 154 00:07:03,909 --> 00:07:03,280 ball to carry and that there's going to 155 00:07:06,150 --> 00:07:03,919 be 156 00:07:06,950 --> 00:07:06,160 almost whether it's even intentional 157 00:07:08,629 --> 00:07:06,960 that you're going to have this 158 00:07:09,110 --> 00:07:08,639 opposition in the way to keep you on the 159 00:07:10,950 --> 00:07:09,120 ground 160 00:07:12,230 --> 00:07:10,960 where everybody just doesn't buy into 161 00:07:12,469 --> 00:07:12,240 what you're saying that you have to sort 162 00:07:14,150 --> 00:07:12,479 of 163 00:07:16,150 --> 00:07:14,160 prove what you're doing i think it's the 164 00:07:17,510 --> 00:07:16,160 basic pattern that almost nobody in the 165 00:07:19,189 --> 00:07:17,520 ufo field 166 00:07:20,870 --> 00:07:19,199 has real support from somebody on this 167 00:07:22,629 --> 00:07:20,880 side people will tolerate it i have 168 00:07:24,469 --> 00:07:22,639 a lot of my family and friends will 169 00:07:25,749 --> 00:07:24,479 tolerate it but they won't ask me 170 00:07:27,589 --> 00:07:25,759 questions about it they'll just know i 171 00:07:30,550 --> 00:07:27,599 do this kind of stuff and they know 172 00:07:32,070 --> 00:07:30,560 that that if if they want to argue with 173 00:07:33,350 --> 00:07:32,080 me i will just keep talking until they 174 00:07:34,710 --> 00:07:33,360 fall over 175 00:07:36,469 --> 00:07:34,720 don't bring it up you know they just 176 00:07:37,270 --> 00:07:36,479 leave them alone and you talk really 177 00:07:40,550 --> 00:07:37,280 fast too 178 00:07:42,550 --> 00:07:40,560 yeah good luck with that i also heard 179 00:07:46,469 --> 00:07:42,560 you play chess is that true 180 00:07:48,150 --> 00:07:46,479 i did until i was about uh maybe 14 15 i 181 00:07:49,110 --> 00:07:48,160 started to lose the odd game and then i 182 00:07:51,110 --> 00:07:49,120 stopped playing 183 00:07:52,629 --> 00:07:51,120 because it was like the old idea i hated 184 00:07:53,749 --> 00:07:52,639 to lose and that's part of what 185 00:07:55,350 --> 00:07:53,759 ufology's about 186 00:07:57,749 --> 00:07:55,360 to me this is like a chess game i mean 187 00:07:59,430 --> 00:07:57,759 this is about uh figuring this thing out 188 00:08:00,790 --> 00:07:59,440 and i believe you can sort of figure it 189 00:08:02,710 --> 00:08:00,800 out and you follow the things 190 00:08:04,070 --> 00:08:02,720 so a lot of people get into like the the 191 00:08:06,150 --> 00:08:04,080 good and evil thing and 192 00:08:07,990 --> 00:08:06,160 and and they sort of have this game like 193 00:08:11,350 --> 00:08:08,000 there's um 194 00:08:12,070 --> 00:08:11,360 i'm a pawn and there's uh you know a bad 195 00:08:13,830 --> 00:08:12,080 ref who's 196 00:08:15,909 --> 00:08:13,840 picking for the other side and and they 197 00:08:18,550 --> 00:08:15,919 have this sort of um 198 00:08:19,749 --> 00:08:18,560 dualistic view of the world sure and i 199 00:08:23,430 --> 00:08:19,759 basically say no it's 200 00:08:24,710 --> 00:08:23,440 it's basically um all there and 201 00:08:26,469 --> 00:08:24,720 it's like a chess game you just sit 202 00:08:27,670 --> 00:08:26,479 there like a lot of people say oh i'm 203 00:08:30,150 --> 00:08:27,680 skeptical i'm i'm 204 00:08:31,589 --> 00:08:30,160 i'm i'm scientifically skeptical and i 205 00:08:32,469 --> 00:08:31,599 say you don't have to be skeptical why 206 00:08:34,230 --> 00:08:32,479 are you skeptical 207 00:08:35,589 --> 00:08:34,240 i mean that's saying i'm gullible and 208 00:08:36,389 --> 00:08:35,599 and saying that you're really proud of 209 00:08:38,070 --> 00:08:36,399 being gullible 210 00:08:39,750 --> 00:08:38,080 it's like a chess game you just sit down 211 00:08:39,990 --> 00:08:39,760 you do not assume that the guy across 212 00:08:42,230 --> 00:08:40,000 you 213 00:08:43,110 --> 00:08:42,240 is an evil alien or a bad guy or 214 00:08:44,949 --> 00:08:43,120 whatever it 215 00:08:47,190 --> 00:08:44,959 wants to win the game and you have to 216 00:08:48,550 --> 00:08:47,200 sit there like like a chess game 217 00:08:51,190 --> 00:08:48,560 everything that happens near a full 218 00:08:53,910 --> 00:08:51,200 field you got to go why did that happen 219 00:08:55,110 --> 00:08:53,920 why did that guy move unless he's a 220 00:08:56,710 --> 00:08:55,120 total idiot and doesn't know how to play 221 00:08:58,470 --> 00:08:56,720 the game but if he's a good player 222 00:09:00,470 --> 00:08:58,480 he moved that piece for a reason and you 223 00:09:01,910 --> 00:09:00,480 do not move a piece until you know why 224 00:09:02,550 --> 00:09:01,920 he moved that piece to see what he's 225 00:09:04,470 --> 00:09:02,560 doing 226 00:09:05,509 --> 00:09:04,480 and then you set up a trap for him or or 227 00:09:05,990 --> 00:09:05,519 whatever because you know what he's 228 00:09:07,670 --> 00:09:06,000 doing 229 00:09:09,030 --> 00:09:07,680 that's what the ufo field it's basically 230 00:09:10,790 --> 00:09:09,040 like a game 231 00:09:12,389 --> 00:09:10,800 it's you sit there and everything's 232 00:09:14,470 --> 00:09:12,399 happening for a reason there is nothing 233 00:09:16,470 --> 00:09:14,480 random happening as far as i'm concerned 234 00:09:18,630 --> 00:09:16,480 and so that's the way i play the game 235 00:09:20,470 --> 00:09:18,640 and to me it's always been a game 236 00:09:21,990 --> 00:09:20,480 because i for me a lot of people spend 237 00:09:23,269 --> 00:09:22,000 their time they want to 238 00:09:25,030 --> 00:09:23,279 like when's the government they're going 239 00:09:26,150 --> 00:09:25,040 to disclose and they basically want the 240 00:09:27,430 --> 00:09:26,160 government to disclose 241 00:09:29,030 --> 00:09:27,440 so they can tell their husband and their 242 00:09:30,470 --> 00:09:29,040 wife and their brother and their sister 243 00:09:32,949 --> 00:09:30,480 see i told you i was right see 244 00:09:34,310 --> 00:09:32,959 you know and they're they're sort of um 245 00:09:36,710 --> 00:09:34,320 almost like they don't have the faith 246 00:09:37,509 --> 00:09:36,720 that there's ufos my first two 247 00:09:38,870 --> 00:09:37,519 experiences 248 00:09:40,310 --> 00:09:38,880 the first one flew right in front of the 249 00:09:42,310 --> 00:09:40,320 car i mean this was not a light in the 250 00:09:44,710 --> 00:09:42,320 sky this is an object so i've never 251 00:09:46,710 --> 00:09:44,720 ever tried to get disclosure i've never 252 00:09:49,190 --> 00:09:46,720 ever tried to prove to people 253 00:09:49,990 --> 00:09:49,200 i could care less i know what i saw i i 254 00:09:51,750 --> 00:09:50,000 mean i was 255 00:09:53,030 --> 00:09:51,760 there but most people are sort of all 256 00:09:55,750 --> 00:09:53,040 they want to do is have 257 00:09:56,310 --> 00:09:55,760 some some government entity or some 258 00:09:58,389 --> 00:09:56,320 higher 259 00:10:01,110 --> 00:09:58,399 person confirm the fact that they're 260 00:10:02,550 --> 00:10:01,120 right but um to me i i know it's i know 261 00:10:03,990 --> 00:10:02,560 it's always been real so i've always 262 00:10:05,590 --> 00:10:04,000 tried to figure out what was that thing 263 00:10:07,110 --> 00:10:05,600 that i saw in 1975 264 00:10:08,710 --> 00:10:07,120 because i saw it up close a couple of 265 00:10:12,310 --> 00:10:08,720 times i saw it five times 266 00:10:13,590 --> 00:10:12,320 in within 500 meters five times and so i 267 00:10:14,949 --> 00:10:13,600 was very interested in 268 00:10:16,230 --> 00:10:14,959 i don't know what's going on here but 269 00:10:17,509 --> 00:10:16,240 somebody's got to know what's going on 270 00:10:19,670 --> 00:10:17,519 and that's why i spent 271 00:10:21,350 --> 00:10:19,680 many many years chasing the canadian 272 00:10:22,470 --> 00:10:21,360 government former president of penn 273 00:10:23,910 --> 00:10:22,480 state university 274 00:10:25,990 --> 00:10:23,920 the president of the united states the 275 00:10:27,350 --> 00:10:26,000 top cia people trying to figure out 276 00:10:28,389 --> 00:10:27,360 and saying one of these guys gotta know 277 00:10:29,829 --> 00:10:28,399 what's going on and listening very 278 00:10:32,389 --> 00:10:29,839 carefully to what they're saying 279 00:10:33,750 --> 00:10:32,399 about what the the field is is going on 280 00:10:34,470 --> 00:10:33,760 and not really judging them just 281 00:10:35,590 --> 00:10:34,480 figuring 282 00:10:37,990 --> 00:10:35,600 sooner or later they're going to let 283 00:10:39,350 --> 00:10:38,000 something slip uh but most people are 284 00:10:41,110 --> 00:10:39,360 not in that world they're in a world 285 00:10:42,710 --> 00:10:41,120 where they just want um the government 286 00:10:44,310 --> 00:10:42,720 to confirm or they go out sky watching 287 00:10:44,870 --> 00:10:44,320 let's go out and skywatch i go no i'm 288 00:10:47,990 --> 00:10:44,880 not 289 00:10:51,190 --> 00:10:49,430 that's how your first thing went down 290 00:10:54,150 --> 00:10:51,200 though you didn't want to 291 00:10:55,750 --> 00:10:54,160 yeah yeah anyways yeah but when you but 292 00:10:56,630 --> 00:10:55,760 when you see it i i just can't 293 00:10:59,030 --> 00:10:56,640 understand it 294 00:11:00,310 --> 00:10:59,040 because i guess the way i would put it 295 00:11:01,829 --> 00:11:00,320 is most people 296 00:11:03,190 --> 00:11:01,839 a lot of people in the ufo feel what 297 00:11:04,230 --> 00:11:03,200 this is is entertainment it's they're 298 00:11:05,590 --> 00:11:04,240 not trying to figure it out 299 00:11:06,870 --> 00:11:05,600 they're just entertained by these 300 00:11:08,310 --> 00:11:06,880 stories definitely and that's what the 301 00:11:08,790 --> 00:11:08,320 skywatch is about let's go out and see 302 00:11:10,550 --> 00:11:08,800 in 303 00:11:11,910 --> 00:11:10,560 at the end of the last century like 100 304 00:11:15,110 --> 00:11:11,920 years ago people 305 00:11:16,230 --> 00:11:15,120 would um would go to have seances and 306 00:11:17,990 --> 00:11:16,240 then talk to dead people 307 00:11:19,509 --> 00:11:18,000 and now the thing is to go skywatching 308 00:11:21,110 --> 00:11:19,519 let's go and look and find look for some 309 00:11:23,030 --> 00:11:21,120 ufos and people go all excited 310 00:11:24,470 --> 00:11:23,040 when they see a ufo and i lots of times 311 00:11:25,910 --> 00:11:24,480 i've had it where people are arguing 312 00:11:26,230 --> 00:11:25,920 about some late in the sky or whatever 313 00:11:28,470 --> 00:11:26,240 and 314 00:11:29,750 --> 00:11:28,480 it's moving no it's not it's a start 315 00:11:31,670 --> 00:11:29,760 you're fighting i'm going 316 00:11:33,509 --> 00:11:31,680 okay folks i mean if you saw what i saw 317 00:11:34,870 --> 00:11:33,519 in 1975 you'd be going to bed 318 00:11:37,190 --> 00:11:34,880 just like i'm going to bed right now 319 00:11:39,269 --> 00:11:37,200 goodbye this isn't getting us anywhere 320 00:11:42,470 --> 00:11:39,279 the squabbling over the lights 321 00:11:43,670 --> 00:11:42,480 yeah most definitely uh um yeah 322 00:11:45,430 --> 00:11:43,680 tremendous you give off 323 00:11:46,870 --> 00:11:45,440 it it's i don't know how this is 324 00:11:47,829 --> 00:11:46,880 possible but you give off such a good 325 00:11:50,629 --> 00:11:47,839 comforting uh 326 00:11:51,670 --> 00:11:50,639 aura over you know like i'm with you in 327 00:11:54,230 --> 00:11:51,680 person but i'm not 328 00:11:56,790 --> 00:11:54,240 so i don't know what that is but yeah i 329 00:11:57,430 --> 00:11:56,800 appreciate it um i have not read your 330 00:12:00,230 --> 00:11:57,440 book yet 331 00:12:00,710 --> 00:12:00,240 uh aliens and artists but that is 332 00:12:04,470 --> 00:12:00,720 something 333 00:12:06,150 --> 00:12:04,480 i want to read um as soon as i can 334 00:12:07,430 --> 00:12:06,160 yeah there's a big art connection i did 335 00:12:08,870 --> 00:12:07,440 i actually did a couple of books i did 336 00:12:10,550 --> 00:12:08,880 one called inspired 337 00:12:12,790 --> 00:12:10,560 the paranormal world of creativity where 338 00:12:15,590 --> 00:12:12,800 i look at artists musicians 339 00:12:16,230 --> 00:12:15,600 inventors nobel prize winners and i say 340 00:12:17,829 --> 00:12:16,240 you think that 341 00:12:20,069 --> 00:12:17,839 it's all rational analytical it's real 342 00:12:20,629 --> 00:12:20,079 guys with real high iqs it's exactly the 343 00:12:23,190 --> 00:12:20,639 opposite 344 00:12:24,310 --> 00:12:23,200 it's right-brained creative people who 345 00:12:26,550 --> 00:12:24,320 can't read music 346 00:12:27,350 --> 00:12:26,560 most major musicians cannot read music 347 00:12:29,670 --> 00:12:27,360 that's true and 348 00:12:31,350 --> 00:12:29,680 and stuff like that and so i did the the 349 00:12:33,670 --> 00:12:31,360 inspired book right because i had my 350 00:12:34,870 --> 00:12:33,680 inspiration in 2012 where i sort of fell 351 00:12:36,310 --> 00:12:34,880 off the edge for the second 352 00:12:39,269 --> 00:12:36,320 i fell off the edge of the world for the 353 00:12:40,949 --> 00:12:39,279 second time and um 354 00:12:42,870 --> 00:12:40,959 so i i found out paul mccartney had 355 00:12:44,710 --> 00:12:42,880 gotten the song yesterday in a dream 356 00:12:45,990 --> 00:12:44,720 and i started down this road of trying 357 00:12:47,269 --> 00:12:46,000 seeing oh people are getting these 358 00:12:48,230 --> 00:12:47,279 downloads people are picking this stuff 359 00:12:49,990 --> 00:12:48,240 out of the field 360 00:12:51,590 --> 00:12:50,000 i gotta so i did the book and then i did 361 00:12:53,910 --> 00:12:51,600 the book on music 362 00:12:55,910 --> 00:12:53,920 and that came to me from an experiencer 363 00:12:57,350 --> 00:12:55,920 where i've written three books on 364 00:12:59,509 --> 00:12:57,360 messages that were given to me by 365 00:13:00,790 --> 00:12:59,519 experiencers who said oh the the beings 366 00:13:02,470 --> 00:13:00,800 have got a message for you 367 00:13:04,550 --> 00:13:02,480 and the me the one for the music one was 368 00:13:06,550 --> 00:13:04,560 chris bledsoe from north carolina 369 00:13:08,150 --> 00:13:06,560 said the the guardians have a message 370 00:13:10,389 --> 00:13:08,160 for you and that's when i said 371 00:13:11,670 --> 00:13:10,399 oh really what are they yeah really what 372 00:13:13,190 --> 00:13:11,680 do they want me to know and he said 373 00:13:15,110 --> 00:13:13,200 they want you to know the messages in 374 00:13:16,629 --> 00:13:15,120 the music and i said well chris 375 00:13:18,150 --> 00:13:16,639 you're probably talking to the wrong guy 376 00:13:19,670 --> 00:13:18,160 because i don't listen to music i've 377 00:13:21,829 --> 00:13:19,680 never played music my whole family's 378 00:13:23,269 --> 00:13:21,839 musical i could care less about music 379 00:13:25,430 --> 00:13:23,279 and he said oh you should listen to 380 00:13:25,990 --> 00:13:25,440 cashmere led zeppelin to go whatever you 381 00:13:27,430 --> 00:13:26,000 know like 382 00:13:28,949 --> 00:13:27,440 you know i was just wasn't buying any of 383 00:13:29,990 --> 00:13:28,959 this stuff and then he said and the 384 00:13:30,710 --> 00:13:30,000 other one you should listen to and this 385 00:13:32,550 --> 00:13:30,720 is where you get into these 386 00:13:34,389 --> 00:13:32,560 synchronicities that you get in in 387 00:13:36,230 --> 00:13:34,399 in the ufo world where he said the other 388 00:13:37,990 --> 00:13:36,240 one you should listen to is 389 00:13:40,310 --> 00:13:38,000 after the gold rush by neil young and i 390 00:13:41,829 --> 00:13:40,320 said neil young is involved in this and 391 00:13:43,990 --> 00:13:41,839 he said yeah neil young's involved 392 00:13:45,350 --> 00:13:44,000 and i live in winnipeg manitoba canada 393 00:13:46,790 --> 00:13:45,360 which i say for the joke 394 00:13:48,470 --> 00:13:46,800 is the one place in canada where not 395 00:13:50,069 --> 00:13:48,480 even people in canada want to visit 396 00:13:51,590 --> 00:13:50,079 it's the coldest major city in the world 397 00:13:52,389 --> 00:13:51,600 it's right in the middle there's nothing 398 00:13:54,550 --> 00:13:52,399 to see here 399 00:13:56,310 --> 00:13:54,560 yeah and yet neil young grew up here so 400 00:13:56,949 --> 00:13:56,320 i said neil young is involved in this 401 00:13:58,949 --> 00:13:56,959 ufo 402 00:14:00,790 --> 00:13:58,959 alien great love neil yeah and when i 403 00:14:02,710 --> 00:14:00,800 saw the lyrics in the song 404 00:14:04,470 --> 00:14:02,720 and it's basically you hear a lot of 405 00:14:05,829 --> 00:14:04,480 experiences talk about the fact that 406 00:14:07,590 --> 00:14:05,839 we're treating the world like a gold 407 00:14:08,629 --> 00:14:07,600 rush and when the gold is gone the it's 408 00:14:09,910 --> 00:14:08,639 going to become a ghost town and the 409 00:14:11,670 --> 00:14:09,920 silver seeds are going to come and take 410 00:14:12,790 --> 00:14:11,680 the chosen ones to another planet that's 411 00:14:14,629 --> 00:14:12,800 what the song says 412 00:14:15,990 --> 00:14:14,639 and so i go wow and then i started 413 00:14:18,629 --> 00:14:16,000 chasing that so i did that 414 00:14:20,470 --> 00:14:18,639 book uh uh on music and then i did the 415 00:14:23,110 --> 00:14:20,480 last book i did which was related was 416 00:14:23,829 --> 00:14:23,120 contact modalities where the the theory 417 00:14:25,269 --> 00:14:23,839 is that 418 00:14:26,949 --> 00:14:25,279 everything is there's no time there's no 419 00:14:28,230 --> 00:14:26,959 space there's just consciousness 420 00:14:30,230 --> 00:14:28,240 everything's in the field it's all 421 00:14:30,550 --> 00:14:30,240 perspective and if you can shut down the 422 00:14:32,629 --> 00:14:30,560 left 423 00:14:34,230 --> 00:14:32,639 rational analytical brain shut off the 424 00:14:36,550 --> 00:14:34,240 noise you can get in the field get them 425 00:14:37,750 --> 00:14:36,560 a song get an indention get whatever you 426 00:14:39,990 --> 00:14:37,760 want and you bring it back 427 00:14:41,110 --> 00:14:40,000 and i list about 70 some contact 428 00:14:43,350 --> 00:14:41,120 modalities that 429 00:14:44,310 --> 00:14:43,360 various people use to get in the field 430 00:14:46,310 --> 00:14:44,320 and channel 431 00:14:47,189 --> 00:14:46,320 or do mediumship or doing whatever 432 00:14:47,670 --> 00:14:47,199 they're doing everybody's doing 433 00:14:49,189 --> 00:14:47,680 basically 434 00:14:51,269 --> 00:14:49,199 the same thing because it's all 435 00:14:53,829 --> 00:14:51,279 consciousness it's consciousness is 436 00:14:55,430 --> 00:14:53,839 the ground of being let me ask you with 437 00:14:56,949 --> 00:14:55,440 the contact modalities and everything 438 00:14:59,110 --> 00:14:56,959 and going into the field 439 00:15:01,350 --> 00:14:59,120 does it sound more complicated than it 440 00:15:03,590 --> 00:15:01,360 is by chance 441 00:15:05,189 --> 00:15:03,600 well people complicated if you know the 442 00:15:07,030 --> 00:15:05,199 the idea of contact modalities came from 443 00:15:08,949 --> 00:15:07,040 ray hernandez and he was pulled out of 444 00:15:11,509 --> 00:15:08,959 his car he's an irs attorney 445 00:15:12,949 --> 00:15:11,519 attorney in in miami he was in a traffic 446 00:15:14,550 --> 00:15:12,959 jam after he heard me lecture on 447 00:15:16,550 --> 00:15:14,560 consciousness two days later 448 00:15:18,629 --> 00:15:16,560 he was in this trap and he gets pulled 449 00:15:20,069 --> 00:15:18,639 out he said he's watching listen to mpr 450 00:15:22,629 --> 00:15:20,079 and they're doing a show about guy 451 00:15:23,189 --> 00:15:22,639 making art sculptures out of people's 452 00:15:25,030 --> 00:15:23,199 fat 453 00:15:26,150 --> 00:15:25,040 in their body and he's going this is 454 00:15:27,430 --> 00:15:26,160 pretty weird and all of a sudden he says 455 00:15:29,430 --> 00:15:27,440 next thing you know he's 456 00:15:30,550 --> 00:15:29,440 he's out of his body and they're showing 457 00:15:32,230 --> 00:15:30,560 him this wheel where the 458 00:15:34,230 --> 00:15:32,240 all this all these contact modalities 459 00:15:36,550 --> 00:15:34,240 are moving quantum physics and 460 00:15:38,310 --> 00:15:36,560 channeling and ufo experiences and stuff 461 00:15:39,749 --> 00:15:38,320 like that and in the middle they showed 462 00:15:41,110 --> 00:15:39,759 its consciousness in the middle 463 00:15:42,710 --> 00:15:41,120 and they said you got to quit parsing 464 00:15:43,990 --> 00:15:42,720 this stuff you're parsing it that's what 465 00:15:45,189 --> 00:15:44,000 you'll see in in 466 00:15:47,509 --> 00:15:45,199 in the field everybody wants to turn it 467 00:15:49,829 --> 00:15:47,519 into religion right away or into 468 00:15:50,790 --> 00:15:49,839 political stuff so everybody will say i 469 00:15:52,629 --> 00:15:50,800 remember one 470 00:15:54,550 --> 00:15:52,639 particular one one woman said to me she 471 00:15:56,150 --> 00:15:54,560 says i'm an experiencer 472 00:15:57,509 --> 00:15:56,160 i'm not a channeler don't stick me in 473 00:15:57,829 --> 00:15:57,519 with those people they're full of it i 474 00:15:59,509 --> 00:15:57,839 mean 475 00:16:00,870 --> 00:15:59,519 i don't love being with those people and 476 00:16:02,230 --> 00:16:00,880 that's what people do i i've got the 477 00:16:03,749 --> 00:16:02,240 answer you don't have the answer 478 00:16:05,350 --> 00:16:03,759 and if my modality is better than your 479 00:16:07,110 --> 00:16:05,360 modality and no 480 00:16:09,110 --> 00:16:07,120 the modality is there the signal is 481 00:16:10,150 --> 00:16:09,120 there for everybody and it's the ability 482 00:16:11,670 --> 00:16:10,160 to turn off the 483 00:16:13,269 --> 00:16:11,680 the noise in the left brain so that's 484 00:16:14,790 --> 00:16:13,279 when you do hypnosis is 485 00:16:16,389 --> 00:16:14,800 basically quieting the mind it's not 486 00:16:18,069 --> 00:16:16,399 it's quieting the left brain the little 487 00:16:20,389 --> 00:16:18,079 voice that's talking all the time 488 00:16:21,990 --> 00:16:20,399 or uh head injuries where the outer body 489 00:16:24,150 --> 00:16:22,000 experiences where the ego is shut down 490 00:16:25,110 --> 00:16:24,160 or psychedelics it's always the same 491 00:16:27,269 --> 00:16:25,120 thing and 492 00:16:28,790 --> 00:16:27,279 some people are better at it than others 493 00:16:30,230 --> 00:16:28,800 and it's like the same 494 00:16:32,069 --> 00:16:30,240 analogy you can make for football 495 00:16:34,069 --> 00:16:32,079 players or musicians there are some 496 00:16:35,350 --> 00:16:34,079 people who can play music 497 00:16:37,350 --> 00:16:35,360 and then there are people who are 498 00:16:39,269 --> 00:16:37,360 professional prodigy 499 00:16:41,430 --> 00:16:39,279 musicians and that's the same thing here 500 00:16:42,150 --> 00:16:41,440 so you some people can do it at various 501 00:16:44,310 --> 00:16:42,160 levels 502 00:16:46,310 --> 00:16:44,320 and so i look at the people who are like 503 00:16:49,269 --> 00:16:46,320 the best channelers and the best 504 00:16:51,430 --> 00:16:49,279 uh esp type things and i look at those 505 00:16:53,829 --> 00:16:51,440 and basically what i see is 506 00:16:55,990 --> 00:16:53,839 uh for example savants are very good you 507 00:16:58,230 --> 00:16:56,000 can ask a savant there's one guys 508 00:16:59,509 --> 00:16:58,240 uh was on 60 minutes who they they 509 00:17:01,509 --> 00:16:59,519 interviewed and 510 00:17:02,790 --> 00:17:01,519 his name was george finn and they said 511 00:17:05,829 --> 00:17:02,800 george what's 512 00:17:07,669 --> 00:17:05,839 uh what's two times three and he goes uh 513 00:17:09,990 --> 00:17:07,679 would that be seven and he goes no it's 514 00:17:12,870 --> 00:17:10,000 not and and then they say you gotta 515 00:17:13,750 --> 00:17:12,880 you gotta ten dollars you go into a uh a 516 00:17:15,350 --> 00:17:13,760 store 517 00:17:16,870 --> 00:17:15,360 and you buy a shirt for three dollars 518 00:17:18,630 --> 00:17:16,880 how much money you got left he goes 519 00:17:20,630 --> 00:17:18,640 i don't know and then they say okay 520 00:17:23,110 --> 00:17:20,640 george what what what day 521 00:17:23,829 --> 00:17:23,120 in the year one the the the third 522 00:17:25,909 --> 00:17:23,839 wednesday 523 00:17:27,350 --> 00:17:25,919 in march of that year and he'll tell 524 00:17:29,430 --> 00:17:27,360 that's tuesday immediately 525 00:17:31,110 --> 00:17:29,440 and he'll never be wrong and that's 526 00:17:33,110 --> 00:17:31,120 because he's got left brain damage 527 00:17:34,710 --> 00:17:33,120 he has the left brain damage and and 528 00:17:37,510 --> 00:17:34,720 that signal is shut off that 529 00:17:38,630 --> 00:17:37,520 that little voice uh simple mathematics 530 00:17:42,310 --> 00:17:38,640 is done in the left brain so you can't 531 00:17:46,710 --> 00:17:44,630 and do this weird stuff or you know the 532 00:17:47,990 --> 00:17:46,720 the mega savanta with that that they 533 00:17:51,430 --> 00:17:48,000 based um 534 00:17:53,590 --> 00:17:51,440 uh rain man on um this guy could re 535 00:17:55,029 --> 00:17:53,600 he had read uh 12 000 books in his 536 00:17:58,230 --> 00:17:55,039 lifetime kim peak 537 00:17:59,350 --> 00:17:58,240 he his brain was had no corpus callosum 538 00:18:00,710 --> 00:17:59,360 between the two brains 539 00:18:02,870 --> 00:18:00,720 so the two sides of the brain were 540 00:18:04,870 --> 00:18:02,880 talking to each other he could read one 541 00:18:06,150 --> 00:18:04,880 one page with one eye one page with the 542 00:18:06,710 --> 00:18:06,160 other eye he could read a book in an 543 00:18:09,270 --> 00:18:06,720 hour 544 00:18:10,630 --> 00:18:09,280 and after as he died at 58 and near the 545 00:18:11,830 --> 00:18:10,640 end of his life they could take any book 546 00:18:13,510 --> 00:18:11,840 he's ever read in his life twelve 547 00:18:15,750 --> 00:18:13,520 thousand books they could go 548 00:18:16,950 --> 00:18:15,760 on page 316 the fourth line what does it 549 00:18:18,150 --> 00:18:16,960 say and he would tell you exactly what 550 00:18:20,950 --> 00:18:18,160 was on the on the fourth line 551 00:18:22,150 --> 00:18:20,960 on stage 316. and so that sort of proves 552 00:18:24,390 --> 00:18:22,160 that there is a field 553 00:18:25,510 --> 00:18:24,400 and if they and if i make it if i tell 554 00:18:26,950 --> 00:18:25,520 you tomorrow you're gonna have a car 555 00:18:28,230 --> 00:18:26,960 accident you have a car accident 556 00:18:29,909 --> 00:18:28,240 then you got to start questioning 557 00:18:31,270 --> 00:18:29,919 whether there's time and space and 558 00:18:32,789 --> 00:18:31,280 that's the whole thing it's all in the 559 00:18:33,909 --> 00:18:32,799 field there is no time and space it's 560 00:18:36,230 --> 00:18:33,919 all happening now 561 00:18:38,230 --> 00:18:36,240 and it's the ability to access the field 562 00:18:41,029 --> 00:18:38,240 as opposed to 563 00:18:42,549 --> 00:18:41,039 some sort of special knowledge that 564 00:18:46,150 --> 00:18:42,559 you're being given 565 00:18:47,909 --> 00:18:46,160 so is there any natural ability at all i 566 00:18:48,630 --> 00:18:47,919 understand everyone can get in there but 567 00:18:51,750 --> 00:18:48,640 is there 568 00:18:53,669 --> 00:18:51,760 like a michael jordan or you know 569 00:18:54,950 --> 00:18:53,679 somebody who's just naturally gifted at 570 00:18:57,110 --> 00:18:54,960 that or 571 00:19:00,070 --> 00:18:57,120 that doesn't have to practice much that 572 00:19:02,150 --> 00:19:00,080 oh yeah oh yeah that's what i say 573 00:19:03,510 --> 00:19:02,160 you can ask the savants and they'll say 574 00:19:04,310 --> 00:19:03,520 they say to george they say how do you 575 00:19:05,750 --> 00:19:04,320 do that 576 00:19:07,430 --> 00:19:05,760 he's that's pretty good hey i could do 577 00:19:11,350 --> 00:19:07,440 that 578 00:19:15,510 --> 00:19:11,360 you had the other guy was um 579 00:19:18,630 --> 00:19:15,520 his name was um i'm gonna forget it um 580 00:19:20,710 --> 00:19:18,640 daniel tameth and daniel tamet his left 581 00:19:23,190 --> 00:19:20,720 brain damage was not quite as severe 582 00:19:24,230 --> 00:19:23,200 but he's the the guy who did pie to 20 583 00:19:27,350 --> 00:19:24,240 20 22 584 00:19:29,270 --> 00:19:27,360 514 places where he goes pie and he 585 00:19:30,549 --> 00:19:29,280 names him off and it takes five hours 586 00:19:31,590 --> 00:19:30,559 and he's sitting there eating bananas 587 00:19:33,669 --> 00:19:31,600 he's rattling and stuff 588 00:19:36,070 --> 00:19:33,679 and he can see colors and stuff and he 589 00:19:37,430 --> 00:19:36,080 he describes it as the fact that 590 00:19:39,510 --> 00:19:37,440 you give him two numbers to multiply 591 00:19:42,230 --> 00:19:39,520 like 17 times 350 592 00:19:44,470 --> 00:19:42,240 he every every number has a shape so he 593 00:19:47,029 --> 00:19:44,480 puts the shape of the 17 in his head 594 00:19:48,549 --> 00:19:47,039 and the 316 and he says i wait for the 595 00:19:50,150 --> 00:19:48,559 the center to fill in 596 00:19:51,669 --> 00:19:50,160 it'll fill in with a shape between those 597 00:19:53,029 --> 00:19:51,679 two shapes and that 598 00:19:54,470 --> 00:19:53,039 shape will be the number and i know 599 00:19:54,789 --> 00:19:54,480 exactly what number it is and he's never 600 00:19:58,150 --> 00:19:54,799 wrong 601 00:19:58,710 --> 00:19:58,160 same thing so imagine that so that's the 602 00:20:00,390 --> 00:19:58,720 thing he's 603 00:20:02,230 --> 00:20:00,400 he's not calculating and he's popping 604 00:20:03,990 --> 00:20:02,240 into his head which gives the idea 605 00:20:05,750 --> 00:20:04,000 that the material is in the field and so 606 00:20:06,310 --> 00:20:05,760 it's what i call noetic material so i've 607 00:20:08,789 --> 00:20:06,320 had 608 00:20:10,870 --> 00:20:08,799 two very strong dometic noetic 609 00:20:12,870 --> 00:20:10,880 experiences one was in 2012 610 00:20:15,029 --> 00:20:12,880 watching colin anders give a lecture 611 00:20:16,310 --> 00:20:15,039 where it came into my head and it said 612 00:20:18,630 --> 00:20:16,320 this answer you tried to figure out in 613 00:20:20,230 --> 00:20:18,640 truth in 1975 what this 614 00:20:21,590 --> 00:20:20,240 was you want to know what was going on 615 00:20:22,789 --> 00:20:21,600 who had the answer the answer is 616 00:20:23,990 --> 00:20:22,799 consciousness and it came 617 00:20:25,430 --> 00:20:24,000 and it was i didn't really know what 618 00:20:26,549 --> 00:20:25,440 consciousness i didn't know how to spell 619 00:20:28,470 --> 00:20:26,559 that i had no idea 620 00:20:29,990 --> 00:20:28,480 but it came into my head and it was it 621 00:20:30,870 --> 00:20:30,000 was like i was talking to god it was 622 00:20:33,270 --> 00:20:30,880 absolute certainty 623 00:20:34,390 --> 00:20:33,280 and then in 2017 i had a more dramatic 624 00:20:37,110 --> 00:20:34,400 one that gave me 625 00:20:38,789 --> 00:20:37,120 24 different things that basically i was 626 00:20:39,190 --> 00:20:38,799 walking and that's why i call it a flow 627 00:20:42,149 --> 00:20:39,200 state 628 00:20:43,270 --> 00:20:42,159 piece of paper start to write it's 629 00:20:44,950 --> 00:20:43,280 you're in this state and 630 00:20:46,390 --> 00:20:44,960 the stuff is coming and and if you don't 631 00:20:47,190 --> 00:20:46,400 write it down you you won't get it 632 00:20:49,029 --> 00:20:47,200 you'll forget it 633 00:20:50,870 --> 00:20:49,039 so it started to give me this material i 634 00:20:53,190 --> 00:20:50,880 know exactly what street i was on 635 00:20:54,390 --> 00:20:53,200 uh what time of the day it was where 636 00:20:55,590 --> 00:20:54,400 what i had just been doing and stuff 637 00:20:56,789 --> 00:20:55,600 like that and it started to come and i 638 00:20:58,310 --> 00:20:56,799 had a piece of paper and i'm writing it 639 00:20:59,830 --> 00:20:58,320 was cold i took my glove off 640 00:21:02,390 --> 00:20:59,840 and i'm writing it down it's basically 641 00:21:05,750 --> 00:21:02,400 saying to me again this noetic material 642 00:21:07,990 --> 00:21:05,760 where it's giving you um answers 643 00:21:09,270 --> 00:21:08,000 uh where it says okay is the world made 644 00:21:10,470 --> 00:21:09,280 out of nuts and bolts 645 00:21:12,310 --> 00:21:10,480 which most people believe it's made out 646 00:21:14,870 --> 00:21:12,320 of nuts and bolts little atoms 647 00:21:15,990 --> 00:21:14,880 if it is that's one world with one with 648 00:21:18,630 --> 00:21:16,000 one set of rules 649 00:21:19,510 --> 00:21:18,640 but if it's made out of consciousness 650 00:21:21,430 --> 00:21:19,520 that's a complete 651 00:21:23,110 --> 00:21:21,440 world and then it says is the world 652 00:21:24,470 --> 00:21:23,120 random if it's random and everything's 653 00:21:25,350 --> 00:21:24,480 happening by accident that's one world 654 00:21:26,789 --> 00:21:25,360 with certain rules 655 00:21:28,470 --> 00:21:26,799 but if it's pattern that's a different 656 00:21:29,909 --> 00:21:28,480 world and it said you think it's this 657 00:21:31,909 --> 00:21:29,919 it's this you think it's this it's 658 00:21:33,110 --> 00:21:31,919 actually this and then later on i had 659 00:21:34,870 --> 00:21:33,120 these noetic 660 00:21:36,789 --> 00:21:34,880 inspirations really told me you're just 661 00:21:39,590 --> 00:21:36,799 an ignorant arrogant little piece of 662 00:21:40,230 --> 00:21:39,600 poo and you think you understand what's 663 00:21:42,230 --> 00:21:40,240 going on 664 00:21:43,270 --> 00:21:42,240 and you haven't got a clue and the worst 665 00:21:44,950 --> 00:21:43,280 part about it is you 666 00:21:46,310 --> 00:21:44,960 think you you don't realize you're an 667 00:21:47,510 --> 00:21:46,320 ignorant arrogant little piece of poo 668 00:21:48,549 --> 00:21:47,520 and you don't know what's going on and 669 00:21:51,669 --> 00:21:48,559 you think you do 670 00:21:52,870 --> 00:21:51,679 and not only is what you've got wrong 671 00:21:53,510 --> 00:21:52,880 it's exactly the opposite of what you 672 00:21:55,110 --> 00:21:53,520 think it is 673 00:21:56,870 --> 00:21:55,120 so you get these ideas that come in your 674 00:21:58,870 --> 00:21:56,880 head and it's never been wrong 675 00:22:00,390 --> 00:21:58,880 none of that stuff i have ever been told 676 00:22:01,990 --> 00:22:00,400 has been wrong it's a that's what we 677 00:22:03,510 --> 00:22:02,000 call noetic material where it's 678 00:22:06,230 --> 00:22:03,520 it's the answers in the field or if you 679 00:22:08,230 --> 00:22:06,240 take a look at ufo experiencers 680 00:22:09,270 --> 00:22:08,240 ufo experiencers say at one point during 681 00:22:10,390 --> 00:22:09,280 their experience 682 00:22:12,070 --> 00:22:10,400 they knew the answer to everything in 683 00:22:13,909 --> 00:22:12,080 the universe and the first time i heard 684 00:22:15,270 --> 00:22:13,919 that i went oh come on already like 685 00:22:16,950 --> 00:22:15,280 and i'd say how do you know on the far 686 00:22:18,630 --> 00:22:16,960 side of the universe there's not number 687 00:22:20,310 --> 00:22:18,640 five to seven they forgot to tell you 688 00:22:21,750 --> 00:22:20,320 about and they'll say what i would say 689 00:22:24,230 --> 00:22:21,760 about my noetic experience 690 00:22:25,350 --> 00:22:24,240 they'll say i'm not sure i just knew 691 00:22:26,789 --> 00:22:25,360 know that i knew the answer to 692 00:22:29,430 --> 00:22:26,799 everything in the universe 693 00:22:30,710 --> 00:22:29,440 near-death experiences 31 of them say at 694 00:22:31,590 --> 00:22:30,720 one point during their experience they 695 00:22:32,149 --> 00:22:31,600 knew the answer to everything in the 696 00:22:34,470 --> 00:22:32,159 universe 697 00:22:36,149 --> 00:22:34,480 and as they came back into their body it 698 00:22:36,630 --> 00:22:36,159 started to fade away like a dream so 699 00:22:39,669 --> 00:22:36,640 that's 700 00:22:41,029 --> 00:22:39,679 people telling is that 701 00:22:42,870 --> 00:22:41,039 everything is in the field all the 702 00:22:44,630 --> 00:22:42,880 answers are there and 703 00:22:45,990 --> 00:22:44,640 more and more we go along we'll learn 704 00:22:47,750 --> 00:22:46,000 more how to access the field 705 00:22:49,029 --> 00:22:47,760 even in australia they can do that with 706 00:22:50,230 --> 00:22:49,039 with savants 707 00:22:52,230 --> 00:22:50,240 one of the things if you're familiar 708 00:22:53,350 --> 00:22:52,240 with rain man one of the things they 709 00:22:55,190 --> 00:22:53,360 have in the movie where he 710 00:22:57,110 --> 00:22:55,200 she drops the toothpicks she drops this 711 00:23:00,310 --> 00:22:57,120 box of toothpicks and he goes 712 00:23:03,590 --> 00:23:00,320 83 83 83 or no 82 82 82 713 00:23:05,029 --> 00:23:03,600 and he says what do you mean he says 246 714 00:23:07,270 --> 00:23:05,039 246 toothpicks 715 00:23:09,110 --> 00:23:07,280 and she's got the box how many p how 716 00:23:12,390 --> 00:23:09,120 many toothpicks are in the box she says 717 00:23:14,149 --> 00:23:12,400 uh 250 and then he says well ray you 718 00:23:15,830 --> 00:23:14,159 were pretty close but not not quite 719 00:23:17,350 --> 00:23:15,840 and then as he's walking away she says 720 00:23:20,390 --> 00:23:17,360 there's still four in the box 721 00:23:22,870 --> 00:23:20,400 and ivanza can do this so savant's gonna 722 00:23:24,390 --> 00:23:22,880 you can drop a pail of peas on the floor 723 00:23:25,590 --> 00:23:24,400 and as the peas hit the floor they'll 724 00:23:26,230 --> 00:23:25,600 tell you exactly how many peas are on 725 00:23:29,029 --> 00:23:26,240 the floor 726 00:23:29,830 --> 00:23:29,039 before and and so what what they found 727 00:23:31,909 --> 00:23:29,840 was uh 728 00:23:32,950 --> 00:23:31,919 they did it in australia so we started 729 00:23:34,310 --> 00:23:32,960 to learn how to do this 730 00:23:36,149 --> 00:23:34,320 what they do is they magnetically 731 00:23:37,909 --> 00:23:36,159 stimulate left side of the brain 732 00:23:39,350 --> 00:23:37,919 and they give this guy a bunch of dots 733 00:23:42,390 --> 00:23:39,360 on the screen he's got one second 734 00:23:43,909 --> 00:23:42,400 120 dots or under 50 dots and when they 735 00:23:44,470 --> 00:23:43,919 magnetically stimulate the left side of 736 00:23:46,710 --> 00:23:44,480 the brain 737 00:23:48,549 --> 00:23:46,720 and shut it down for 15 minutes he can 738 00:23:50,310 --> 00:23:48,559 get 8 out of 20 right 739 00:23:52,870 --> 00:23:50,320 and that just throws you that that this 740 00:23:53,269 --> 00:23:52,880 is an ability that you can develop and 741 00:23:55,110 --> 00:23:53,279 we're 742 00:23:57,029 --> 00:23:55,120 starting to go down that road and learn 743 00:23:57,909 --> 00:23:57,039 how this works it's not as rapid as 744 00:24:00,310 --> 00:23:57,919 people think it is 745 00:24:02,149 --> 00:24:00,320 well in uh remote viewing i mean we've 746 00:24:05,269 --> 00:24:02,159 been doing that since 747 00:24:06,230 --> 00:24:05,279 the late 70s early 80s at least and then 748 00:24:07,830 --> 00:24:06,240 it went to sri 749 00:24:09,590 --> 00:24:07,840 and and we're obviously still doing it 750 00:24:12,149 --> 00:24:09,600 now is that the same as 751 00:24:13,510 --> 00:24:12,159 tapping in yeah yeah even even the left 752 00:24:15,269 --> 00:24:13,520 brain right brain i remember i 753 00:24:16,549 --> 00:24:15,279 i went to hell put off when i made this 754 00:24:17,990 --> 00:24:16,559 discovery about the left brain right 755 00:24:20,390 --> 00:24:18,000 brain that you're shutting down the left 756 00:24:21,669 --> 00:24:20,400 brain and picking up the signal i went 757 00:24:24,070 --> 00:24:21,679 to hell i said hell 758 00:24:25,430 --> 00:24:24,080 he did the reviewing he said did you get 759 00:24:25,909 --> 00:24:25,440 into this right brain left brain thing 760 00:24:27,510 --> 00:24:25,919 and 761 00:24:29,029 --> 00:24:27,520 he just writes back he'll put up his 762 00:24:29,669 --> 00:24:29,039 very very short he just writes back and 763 00:24:31,430 --> 00:24:29,679 he said 764 00:24:32,950 --> 00:24:31,440 read chapter six of my book the mind 765 00:24:33,269 --> 00:24:32,960 experiment and i went there and it's 766 00:24:35,110 --> 00:24:33,279 like 767 00:24:36,950 --> 00:24:35,120 right brain left brain and they had this 768 00:24:39,190 --> 00:24:36,960 already even paul put off's wife 769 00:24:42,630 --> 00:24:39,200 discovered this that with remote viewers 770 00:24:45,590 --> 00:24:42,640 they can tell you the color the shape 771 00:24:46,070 --> 00:24:45,600 um the um the texture all this kind of 772 00:24:47,510 --> 00:24:46,080 stuff 773 00:24:49,110 --> 00:24:47,520 but when they start to try to tell you 774 00:24:50,149 --> 00:24:49,120 what it is they're going to get it wrong 775 00:24:53,510 --> 00:24:50,159 they're going to it's a 776 00:24:54,870 --> 00:24:53,520 say a pool where they're 777 00:24:56,310 --> 00:24:54,880 doing sewage or whatever and they'll say 778 00:24:56,789 --> 00:24:56,320 it's a swimming pool they'll get it 779 00:24:59,430 --> 00:24:56,799 wrong 780 00:25:00,070 --> 00:24:59,440 and that's because left brain is naming 781 00:25:02,710 --> 00:25:00,080 stuff so 782 00:25:03,590 --> 00:25:02,720 size name all that stuff they get it all 783 00:25:04,789 --> 00:25:03,600 wrong but everything 784 00:25:06,710 --> 00:25:04,799 everything else they've got right the 785 00:25:07,269 --> 00:25:06,720 color the shape the texture all that 786 00:25:08,710 --> 00:25:07,279 kind of stuff 787 00:25:11,590 --> 00:25:08,720 and that's all right brain stuff and 788 00:25:13,110 --> 00:25:11,600 that's they learned this already in 1972 789 00:25:14,549 --> 00:25:13,120 that the left brain so that's when they 790 00:25:15,350 --> 00:25:14,559 when you do remote viewing that's what 791 00:25:18,149 --> 00:25:15,360 they say to you 792 00:25:18,630 --> 00:25:18,159 sit down do not guess if you guess it's 793 00:25:19,990 --> 00:25:18,640 over 794 00:25:21,669 --> 00:25:20,000 because what what and they don't give 795 00:25:23,190 --> 00:25:21,679 you any all they give you is a number 796 00:25:24,789 --> 00:25:23,200 because they they don't want to get let 797 00:25:25,590 --> 00:25:24,799 get your left brain in so if i give you 798 00:25:34,390 --> 00:25:25,600 a 799 00:25:36,710 --> 00:25:34,400 guess you lost 800 00:25:37,830 --> 00:25:36,720 all it says tell you what you feel tell 801 00:25:39,350 --> 00:25:37,840 you what you smell 802 00:25:41,590 --> 00:25:39,360 just write it down and don't guess what 803 00:25:42,630 --> 00:25:41,600 it is and and we'll figure it out later 804 00:25:44,630 --> 00:25:42,640 what you're getting 805 00:25:45,909 --> 00:25:44,640 because it's and they call it analytical 806 00:25:47,190 --> 00:25:45,919 overlay you've got to stop the left 807 00:25:49,110 --> 00:25:47,200 brain from getting in there 808 00:25:51,269 --> 00:25:49,120 and taking over yeah it feels so 809 00:25:53,350 --> 00:25:51,279 unnatural you know 810 00:25:54,470 --> 00:25:53,360 it may be because we were raised that 811 00:25:55,669 --> 00:25:54,480 way or just 812 00:25:57,830 --> 00:25:55,679 living that life and it's hard to 813 00:25:59,269 --> 00:25:57,840 reverse those wires but 814 00:26:00,630 --> 00:25:59,279 yeah that is difficult that's a great 815 00:26:01,190 --> 00:26:00,640 tip though because a couple times i've 816 00:26:05,029 --> 00:26:01,200 tried 817 00:26:07,990 --> 00:26:05,039 definitely i'm naming stuff you know 818 00:26:10,870 --> 00:26:08,000 swimming pool barn birds no no that's 819 00:26:13,830 --> 00:26:10,880 not gonna it doesn't really work out so 820 00:26:15,430 --> 00:26:13,840 um you are definitely correct sir there 821 00:26:18,549 --> 00:26:15,440 um 822 00:26:21,510 --> 00:26:18,559 so i oh uh i had a question from 823 00:26:22,549 --> 00:26:21,520 a fan of yours that emailed me actually 824 00:26:26,310 --> 00:26:22,559 if you don't mind 825 00:26:29,750 --> 00:26:26,320 sure um he wanted to know 826 00:26:32,789 --> 00:26:29,760 about if you heard of this song calling 827 00:26:33,430 --> 00:26:32,799 occupants of interplanetary craft oh 828 00:26:35,750 --> 00:26:33,440 yeah 829 00:26:37,909 --> 00:26:35,760 sure it's in my book i have um okay and 830 00:26:39,669 --> 00:26:37,919 then the music book i released um all 831 00:26:42,789 --> 00:26:39,679 the ufo songs that came 832 00:26:46,149 --> 00:26:42,799 and i i list how many experiencers 833 00:26:47,510 --> 00:26:46,159 are actually um how many musicians are 834 00:26:49,510 --> 00:26:47,520 actually experiencers and it's like a 835 00:26:53,750 --> 00:26:49,520 lot of them a lot of the major musicians 836 00:26:57,750 --> 00:26:55,990 and and that's what you see is this um 837 00:26:59,750 --> 00:26:57,760 thing so that was one of the ones i 838 00:27:01,510 --> 00:26:59,760 think that was clatto from canada i was 839 00:27:02,070 --> 00:27:01,520 a musical idiot so i'm not really that 840 00:27:03,990 --> 00:27:02,080 sure about 841 00:27:05,110 --> 00:27:04,000 musicians and stuff like that and the 842 00:27:06,390 --> 00:27:05,120 names of stuff because i 843 00:27:07,830 --> 00:27:06,400 never was into it but i think that's 844 00:27:08,950 --> 00:27:07,840 that was by cloutu that everybody used 845 00:27:10,630 --> 00:27:08,960 to think was the beatles 846 00:27:12,630 --> 00:27:10,640 and they played off this they sounded 847 00:27:14,549 --> 00:27:12,640 like the beatles uh but there was a lot 848 00:27:16,549 --> 00:27:14,559 of these very famous songs that 849 00:27:17,830 --> 00:27:16,559 um that came and it may have been the 850 00:27:19,029 --> 00:27:17,840 only big song and that's one of the 851 00:27:23,430 --> 00:27:19,039 things we realized 852 00:27:26,789 --> 00:27:23,440 with these big songs like yesterday um 853 00:27:29,029 --> 00:27:26,799 no satisfaction by the rolling stones uh 854 00:27:30,950 --> 00:27:29,039 let it be by mccartney where his mother 855 00:27:33,990 --> 00:27:30,960 comes to him in a dream and she says 856 00:27:35,909 --> 00:27:34,000 paul let it be and stuff like that 857 00:27:37,669 --> 00:27:35,919 that it's always the a side songs the 858 00:27:39,269 --> 00:27:37,679 most powerful songs of all times 859 00:27:40,789 --> 00:27:39,279 are these songs that that people got 860 00:27:44,400 --> 00:27:40,799 instantaneously 861 00:27:45,510 --> 00:27:44,410 where uh my favorites the b-sides 862 00:27:48,870 --> 00:27:45,520 [Laughter] 863 00:27:49,830 --> 00:27:48,880 or even had the one with um um carlos 864 00:27:51,590 --> 00:27:49,840 santana 865 00:27:52,870 --> 00:27:51,600 and it's not just ufos because we want 866 00:27:53,830 --> 00:27:52,880 to parse it again we want to make it 867 00:27:55,110 --> 00:27:53,840 into aliens 868 00:27:56,549 --> 00:27:55,120 and the more i look at it the more i 869 00:27:57,430 --> 00:27:56,559 think it's not going to be aliens it's 870 00:27:59,269 --> 00:27:57,440 going to be 871 00:28:00,870 --> 00:27:59,279 something very much more complex so 872 00:28:03,350 --> 00:28:00,880 carlos santana was dealing with 873 00:28:05,029 --> 00:28:03,360 what he believed was an archangel called 874 00:28:06,070 --> 00:28:05,039 metatron and he hadn't put out an album 875 00:28:07,750 --> 00:28:06,080 for 30 years 876 00:28:08,950 --> 00:28:07,760 and he was very famous in the 60s and 877 00:28:09,350 --> 00:28:08,960 they said we're going to put you back on 878 00:28:13,029 --> 00:28:09,360 this 879 00:28:15,430 --> 00:28:13,039 people 880 00:28:16,230 --> 00:28:15,440 in your and he was meditating as he was 881 00:28:17,669 --> 00:28:16,240 doing his channel 882 00:28:19,430 --> 00:28:17,679 he was sitting facing a wall with 883 00:28:20,789 --> 00:28:19,440 candles and stuff and he meditates and 884 00:28:23,430 --> 00:28:20,799 stuff and metatron celebrate put you 885 00:28:26,710 --> 00:28:23,440 back on the stage and he actually 886 00:28:29,669 --> 00:28:26,720 um gets uh the the 887 00:28:30,230 --> 00:28:29,679 album supernatural which sold 30 million 888 00:28:32,070 --> 00:28:30,240 albums 889 00:28:33,590 --> 00:28:32,080 he won eight grammys more than michael 890 00:28:34,549 --> 00:28:33,600 jackson the most grammy's ever won in 891 00:28:36,549 --> 00:28:34,559 one year 892 00:28:37,990 --> 00:28:36,559 and and then he had a bunch of uh the 893 00:28:39,269 --> 00:28:38,000 people that worked with him he said 894 00:28:40,710 --> 00:28:39,279 as soon as this happened all these 895 00:28:41,909 --> 00:28:40,720 people started phoning up and said i 896 00:28:43,430 --> 00:28:41,919 don't know why i'm supposed to phone you 897 00:28:44,789 --> 00:28:43,440 it's like god is talking i'm just 898 00:28:46,630 --> 00:28:44,799 i'm supposed to work with you and all 899 00:28:49,269 --> 00:28:46,640 these musicians appeared 900 00:28:50,470 --> 00:28:49,279 and uh two of them were experiences uh 901 00:28:53,350 --> 00:28:50,480 matthew's d 902 00:28:54,389 --> 00:28:53,360 um kevin's first name um but there was a 903 00:28:55,909 --> 00:28:54,399 couple of them that were 904 00:28:57,430 --> 00:28:55,919 definitely experiencers that had been 905 00:28:59,110 --> 00:28:57,440 abducted and that's where you start 906 00:29:02,070 --> 00:28:59,120 seeing these crossovers 907 00:29:03,110 --> 00:29:02,080 where it's all basically um the same 908 00:29:04,950 --> 00:29:03,120 thing and that's where 909 00:29:06,630 --> 00:29:04,960 we get off track where we want to sort 910 00:29:08,149 --> 00:29:06,640 of uh you know 911 00:29:10,549 --> 00:29:08,159 analyze it break it down into little 912 00:29:11,190 --> 00:29:10,559 pieces and stuff and it's all basically 913 00:29:13,110 --> 00:29:11,200 one thing 914 00:29:15,110 --> 00:29:13,120 is going to tie together is as far as 915 00:29:15,350 --> 00:29:15,120 i've seen and that's after 46 years and 916 00:29:24,149 --> 00:29:15,360 i 917 00:29:26,230 --> 00:29:24,159 was et the same as everybody else 918 00:29:27,990 --> 00:29:26,240 and the more i go along the more i i 919 00:29:28,710 --> 00:29:28,000 figure you know something's wrong here 920 00:29:30,710 --> 00:29:28,720 like you know 921 00:29:32,310 --> 00:29:30,720 even the et thing which i know people 922 00:29:35,269 --> 00:29:32,320 are going to be very unpopular with 923 00:29:36,870 --> 00:29:35,279 john keel well kiel is the guy that 924 00:29:39,029 --> 00:29:36,880 brought it up 925 00:29:40,149 --> 00:29:39,039 this isn't making any sense and so i see 926 00:29:41,990 --> 00:29:40,159 people say it's e.t 927 00:29:43,350 --> 00:29:42,000 come on cameron it's e.t it's obviously 928 00:29:46,950 --> 00:29:43,360 etl he's stupid 929 00:29:48,230 --> 00:29:46,960 and i say okay in 1895 and 18 1875 it 930 00:29:51,430 --> 00:29:48,240 started 1895 931 00:29:52,789 --> 00:29:51,440 86 87 united states europe and 932 00:29:54,630 --> 00:29:52,799 new zealand all these airships were 933 00:29:55,909 --> 00:29:54,640 flying around which were wooden airships 934 00:29:58,870 --> 00:29:55,919 with sails on them and 935 00:29:59,430 --> 00:29:58,880 and uh the big giant uh lights and the 936 00:30:00,870 --> 00:29:59,440 lights 937 00:30:03,029 --> 00:30:00,880 the light wasn't even invented until 938 00:30:03,990 --> 00:30:03,039 1880 and the battery wasn't invented to 939 00:30:05,190 --> 00:30:04,000 2001 940 00:30:06,789 --> 00:30:05,200 so how do they have these lights on 941 00:30:08,070 --> 00:30:06,799 these big huge wooden ships and then 942 00:30:09,269 --> 00:30:08,080 they asked these guys where are you from 943 00:30:11,190 --> 00:30:09,279 they said we're from mars 944 00:30:12,389 --> 00:30:11,200 and i said okay do you really believe 945 00:30:14,310 --> 00:30:12,399 that this alien 946 00:30:15,669 --> 00:30:14,320 that these guys flew in on these wooden 947 00:30:17,430 --> 00:30:15,679 ships from mars 948 00:30:18,950 --> 00:30:17,440 now we know because they talk to you at 949 00:30:21,029 --> 00:30:18,960 your level whatever your 950 00:30:22,230 --> 00:30:21,039 whatever your perspective is that's how 951 00:30:25,029 --> 00:30:22,240 they talk to you as 952 00:30:26,470 --> 00:30:25,039 as barbra streisand's son told me they 953 00:30:27,029 --> 00:30:26,480 they come to you and they go into your 954 00:30:30,070 --> 00:30:27,039 head 955 00:30:30,710 --> 00:30:30,080 and then they use that to teach you a 956 00:30:32,630 --> 00:30:30,720 lot they 957 00:30:33,990 --> 00:30:32,640 teach your lessons so if you're into 958 00:30:35,750 --> 00:30:34,000 fear they're going to use fear and 959 00:30:37,190 --> 00:30:35,760 that's where i say the grace come from 960 00:30:37,909 --> 00:30:37,200 if you look at all gray encounters 961 00:30:42,149 --> 00:30:37,919 you'll see 962 00:30:43,909 --> 00:30:42,159 linked into it if you go to mission rama 963 00:30:45,830 --> 00:30:43,919 i wrote two books on mission rama 964 00:30:48,149 --> 00:30:45,840 the mission rama people started in peru 965 00:30:49,590 --> 00:30:48,159 and the year before me 1974. 966 00:30:51,430 --> 00:30:49,600 if you look at theirs there's no graze 967 00:30:53,590 --> 00:30:51,440 there's no reptilians there's no mantas 968 00:30:55,269 --> 00:30:53,600 there i defy you to find to any and 969 00:30:56,389 --> 00:30:55,279 they've got piles of contact experience 970 00:30:58,789 --> 00:30:56,399 they're all the same thing 971 00:31:00,070 --> 00:30:58,799 they're these higher elevated beings 972 00:31:01,750 --> 00:31:00,080 with long hair 973 00:31:04,149 --> 00:31:01,760 and they live under the mountain and 974 00:31:05,269 --> 00:31:04,159 they live on ganymede which is 190 975 00:31:07,190 --> 00:31:05,279 degrees below zero 976 00:31:09,350 --> 00:31:07,200 and it's like really you really think 977 00:31:12,389 --> 00:31:09,360 this is they're basically just 978 00:31:14,630 --> 00:31:12,399 reflecting you your belief systems 979 00:31:15,669 --> 00:31:14,640 to teach you a lesson and as we go along 980 00:31:17,990 --> 00:31:15,679 it started with uh 981 00:31:19,430 --> 00:31:18,000 mars and venus then it went whenever 982 00:31:21,029 --> 00:31:19,440 nobody believed that mars and venus were 983 00:31:21,909 --> 00:31:21,039 inhabited anymore then they went to zeta 984 00:31:24,389 --> 00:31:21,919 reticuli 985 00:31:25,669 --> 00:31:24,399 and and pleiades and stuff like that and 986 00:31:26,710 --> 00:31:25,679 then whenever we started to have doubts 987 00:31:28,470 --> 00:31:26,720 about that now they're saying 988 00:31:29,990 --> 00:31:28,480 over from the 11th dimension from the 989 00:31:31,190 --> 00:31:30,000 fifth dimension and now we're into 990 00:31:33,350 --> 00:31:31,200 dimensions and 991 00:31:34,630 --> 00:31:33,360 and you know the holographic universe 992 00:31:36,549 --> 00:31:34,640 type idea 993 00:31:38,149 --> 00:31:36,559 what do you think of the whole uh good 994 00:31:39,430 --> 00:31:38,159 versus evil thing though i feel like 995 00:31:41,430 --> 00:31:39,440 that's been here 996 00:31:42,470 --> 00:31:41,440 since the beginning almost like where 997 00:31:44,470 --> 00:31:42,480 has that come from 998 00:31:45,590 --> 00:31:44,480 no i said one of the things i was given 999 00:31:48,070 --> 00:31:45,600 2017 1000 00:31:49,430 --> 00:31:48,080 is is it one life if it's one life 1001 00:31:51,750 --> 00:31:49,440 that's that's one 1002 00:31:52,630 --> 00:31:51,760 that's one uh world with certain rules 1003 00:31:54,950 --> 00:31:52,640 and regulations 1004 00:31:55,750 --> 00:31:54,960 but if it's multiple lives reincarnation 1005 00:31:58,230 --> 00:31:55,760 is a fact 1006 00:31:59,750 --> 00:31:58,240 everything changes and i'm a big fan of 1007 00:31:59,990 --> 00:31:59,760 dr michael newton it was one of the four 1008 00:32:01,909 --> 00:32:00,000 big 1009 00:32:03,909 --> 00:32:01,919 experiences of my life i saw this guy 1010 00:32:05,590 --> 00:32:03,919 lecture in the united states 1011 00:32:08,310 --> 00:32:05,600 i couldn't think for a couple days and 1012 00:32:10,549 --> 00:32:08,320 he does the 7000 regressions so people 1013 00:32:12,870 --> 00:32:10,559 takes them into life between lives and 1014 00:32:14,549 --> 00:32:12,880 in there you basically plan your life 1015 00:32:15,909 --> 00:32:14,559 and you go through and you put the stuff 1016 00:32:16,789 --> 00:32:15,919 in front of you that's the whole idea i 1017 00:32:18,710 --> 00:32:16,799 gave you before 1018 00:32:20,389 --> 00:32:18,720 if you have a car accident tomorrow 1019 00:32:22,070 --> 00:32:20,399 right and i say you're gonna have a car 1020 00:32:24,630 --> 00:32:22,080 accident is that a random event 1021 00:32:25,190 --> 00:32:24,640 who planned that did you plan that or we 1022 00:32:28,230 --> 00:32:25,200 go to 1023 00:32:29,590 --> 00:32:28,240 ufo experiences 37 of all ufo 1024 00:32:30,310 --> 00:32:29,600 experiences have had a near-death 1025 00:32:31,750 --> 00:32:30,320 experience 1026 00:32:33,590 --> 00:32:31,760 and that's eight times the national 1027 00:32:35,750 --> 00:32:33,600 average so the question is how 1028 00:32:37,029 --> 00:32:35,760 are all these people having not not only 1029 00:32:39,509 --> 00:32:37,039 an abduction experience 1030 00:32:40,710 --> 00:32:39,519 but a you about a near-death experience 1031 00:32:42,389 --> 00:32:40,720 and it's because 1032 00:32:44,070 --> 00:32:42,399 you're assuming it's one life you're 1033 00:32:45,830 --> 00:32:44,080 assuming that things are random 1034 00:32:47,509 --> 00:32:45,840 if it's if it's multiple lives then 1035 00:32:49,190 --> 00:32:47,519 maybe perhaps you came in 1036 00:32:50,630 --> 00:32:49,200 and chose to be an experiencer and you 1037 00:32:53,750 --> 00:32:50,640 chose to have a near-death experience 1038 00:32:54,789 --> 00:32:53,760 to have to have an experi an experience 1039 00:32:56,149 --> 00:32:54,799 or a learning experience 1040 00:32:58,230 --> 00:32:56,159 so i say there's no good and there's no 1041 00:32:59,190 --> 00:32:58,240 evil there's just experience you planned 1042 00:33:00,549 --> 00:32:59,200 it you put it and 1043 00:33:02,549 --> 00:33:00,559 according to michael newton when you 1044 00:33:03,110 --> 00:33:02,559 leave the world they only ask you one 1045 00:33:04,389 --> 00:33:03,120 question 1046 00:33:06,310 --> 00:33:04,399 you go in front of the sort of life 1047 00:33:07,110 --> 00:33:06,320 review you'll hear people where they see 1048 00:33:08,950 --> 00:33:07,120 their life from 1049 00:33:10,310 --> 00:33:08,960 other people's perspective and how they 1050 00:33:12,310 --> 00:33:10,320 how people reacted to 1051 00:33:14,870 --> 00:33:12,320 how they did stuff and there's there's 1052 00:33:18,070 --> 00:33:14,880 basically only one rule 1053 00:33:18,470 --> 00:33:18,080 that the only rule is uh how did it work 1054 00:33:19,750 --> 00:33:18,480 out 1055 00:33:21,509 --> 00:33:19,760 because you planned it you put the 1056 00:33:22,310 --> 00:33:21,519 players on the stage so don't be blaming 1057 00:33:25,430 --> 00:33:22,320 hillary clinton 1058 00:33:27,190 --> 00:33:25,440 and and uh you know donald trump and and 1059 00:33:28,710 --> 00:33:27,200 uh your mother-in-law and the dog ate my 1060 00:33:30,230 --> 00:33:28,720 homework and they're gonna go time out 1061 00:33:31,830 --> 00:33:30,240 this is what you you put the players on 1062 00:33:32,789 --> 00:33:31,840 the stage you set this whole thing the 1063 00:33:34,630 --> 00:33:32,799 car accidents 1064 00:33:36,389 --> 00:33:34,640 all this kind of stuff to learn and what 1065 00:33:38,230 --> 00:33:36,399 did you learn did you actually 1066 00:33:39,909 --> 00:33:38,240 learn something how did it work out how 1067 00:33:41,590 --> 00:33:39,919 did your your play work out 1068 00:33:43,430 --> 00:33:41,600 and that's where shakespeare said 1069 00:33:44,389 --> 00:33:43,440 although all the world's a stage all the 1070 00:33:47,029 --> 00:33:44,399 men and women and 1071 00:33:47,430 --> 00:33:47,039 aliens are but actors so we assume that 1072 00:33:52,310 --> 00:33:47,440 we're 1073 00:33:54,870 --> 00:33:52,320 we are not humans we are etheric beings 1074 00:33:55,750 --> 00:33:54,880 who are on a stage playing a human 1075 00:33:57,269 --> 00:33:55,760 there's a big difference 1076 00:33:59,430 --> 00:33:57,279 same as the aliens come in and they're 1077 00:34:01,750 --> 00:33:59,440 playing aliens and a number of 1078 00:34:02,789 --> 00:34:01,760 a lot a lot of people will take when 1079 00:34:03,669 --> 00:34:02,799 they've got people with alien 1080 00:34:06,789 --> 00:34:03,679 experiences 1081 00:34:08,869 --> 00:34:06,799 they'll say they'll they'll basically 1082 00:34:10,470 --> 00:34:08,879 interview people and they'll say ask me 1083 00:34:13,589 --> 00:34:10,480 or tell tell me 1084 00:34:14,790 --> 00:34:13,599 did the uh alien have uh um you know did 1085 00:34:16,950 --> 00:34:14,800 the alien probe you 1086 00:34:18,149 --> 00:34:16,960 did it hurt were you scared when i get 1087 00:34:19,270 --> 00:34:18,159 someone and i say 1088 00:34:20,869 --> 00:34:19,280 you were on the ship and you were with 1089 00:34:21,510 --> 00:34:20,879 the alien they go yeah let me ask you a 1090 00:34:24,470 --> 00:34:21,520 question 1091 00:34:25,750 --> 00:34:24,480 yeah uh do you have any clothes on no 1092 00:34:27,190 --> 00:34:25,760 doesn't that sound strange doesn't have 1093 00:34:29,829 --> 00:34:27,200 any clothes on and then i say 1094 00:34:30,389 --> 00:34:29,839 hey i love your impressions do they have 1095 00:34:32,310 --> 00:34:30,399 any sex 1096 00:34:34,230 --> 00:34:32,320 organs and they go i never thought about 1097 00:34:35,669 --> 00:34:34,240 that no it didn't and i said well 1098 00:34:37,669 --> 00:34:35,679 how do you know it was a man or a woman 1099 00:34:39,109 --> 00:34:37,679 they say i just knew i knew i could 1100 00:34:40,869 --> 00:34:39,119 i could feel it was a man or a woman and 1101 00:34:41,829 --> 00:34:40,879 then i'd say to them did you ever ask if 1102 00:34:44,470 --> 00:34:41,839 it was an alien 1103 00:34:45,669 --> 00:34:44,480 and i've had three or four people that i 1104 00:34:48,149 --> 00:34:45,679 i had a couple that actually 1105 00:34:49,990 --> 00:34:48,159 seemed like an obvious question yeah it 1106 00:34:51,829 --> 00:34:50,000 went back and then the aliens 1107 00:34:53,270 --> 00:34:51,839 said for example sherry wilde i don't 1108 00:34:55,589 --> 00:34:53,280 know if you ever interviewed her but she 1109 00:34:56,310 --> 00:34:55,599 she's written a book a very famous book 1110 00:34:57,829 --> 00:34:56,320 on and she 1111 00:34:59,349 --> 00:34:57,839 they're going to do a movie on her story 1112 00:35:02,310 --> 00:34:59,359 and stuff like that she 1113 00:35:03,510 --> 00:35:02,320 she had an experience where she she was 1114 00:35:04,630 --> 00:35:03,520 forced to write the book they forced her 1115 00:35:04,870 --> 00:35:04,640 to write the book she didn't want to do 1116 00:35:06,950 --> 00:35:04,880 it 1117 00:35:08,390 --> 00:35:06,960 she had lost her kids had turned on her 1118 00:35:09,750 --> 00:35:08,400 and got a 1119 00:35:11,190 --> 00:35:09,760 restraining order to stop her from 1120 00:35:13,030 --> 00:35:11,200 publishing the book and stuff she had a 1121 00:35:14,470 --> 00:35:13,040 really ugly experience with this thing 1122 00:35:15,990 --> 00:35:14,480 and so she had the book with the 1123 00:35:16,630 --> 00:35:16,000 publisher in the book and the publisher 1124 00:35:19,829 --> 00:35:16,640 said hey 1125 00:35:21,510 --> 00:35:19,839 this is sherry you you said you said 1126 00:35:22,310 --> 00:35:21,520 this guy's a zeta and she said yeah he's 1127 00:35:23,589 --> 00:35:22,320 a zeta 1128 00:35:25,270 --> 00:35:23,599 and he said well he said he's from 1129 00:35:27,349 --> 00:35:25,280 andromeda he can't be from andromeda 1130 00:35:29,349 --> 00:35:27,359 he's a zeta he's got to be from xavier 1131 00:35:31,270 --> 00:35:29,359 and she said really and he said yeah go 1132 00:35:33,030 --> 00:35:31,280 back and ask him so he goes back to da 1133 00:35:34,630 --> 00:35:33,040 who was her being she says so what's 1134 00:35:36,230 --> 00:35:34,640 going on here are you actually an alien 1135 00:35:38,390 --> 00:35:36,240 and he said exactly what all of them 1136 00:35:38,790 --> 00:35:38,400 will say no that would not best describe 1137 00:35:41,589 --> 00:35:38,800 who i 1138 00:35:43,349 --> 00:35:41,599 am i am an empiric being on a mission in 1139 00:35:45,349 --> 00:35:43,359 the cosmos for the creator 1140 00:35:46,790 --> 00:35:45,359 i had talked to some beings in in london 1141 00:35:47,910 --> 00:35:46,800 england wanted an interview 1142 00:35:49,829 --> 00:35:47,920 they wanted to be interviewed these 1143 00:35:50,310 --> 00:35:49,839 three beings and then they said they 1144 00:35:52,230 --> 00:35:50,320 said 1145 00:35:53,430 --> 00:35:52,240 basically we've always been here and 1146 00:35:54,310 --> 00:35:53,440 this is this idea there's no time 1147 00:35:56,390 --> 00:35:54,320 there's no space 1148 00:35:58,630 --> 00:35:56,400 it's all here it's all now it's just 1149 00:35:59,510 --> 00:35:58,640 different levels all in this one spot 1150 00:36:01,670 --> 00:35:59,520 and the government has actually 1151 00:36:04,069 --> 00:36:01,680 investigated that possibility and 1152 00:36:05,190 --> 00:36:04,079 and so these being said you know if you 1153 00:36:06,790 --> 00:36:05,200 want to do the alien thing 1154 00:36:08,230 --> 00:36:06,800 we can take you to our planet and do the 1155 00:36:09,589 --> 00:36:08,240 alien thing if you want to do that but 1156 00:36:12,069 --> 00:36:09,599 no we're not cheap in here 1157 00:36:14,150 --> 00:36:12,079 and they said we've always been here 1158 00:36:15,190 --> 00:36:14,160 you're going to do the alien thing 1159 00:36:16,310 --> 00:36:15,200 that's what they said you're going to do 1160 00:36:17,589 --> 00:36:16,320 the alien thing we can do the other 1161 00:36:21,190 --> 00:36:17,599 thing but they want to 1162 00:36:22,470 --> 00:36:21,200 i don't know that we want to believe 1163 00:36:23,190 --> 00:36:22,480 it's aliens so they'll say okay we're 1164 00:36:26,470 --> 00:36:23,200 aliens 1165 00:36:28,790 --> 00:36:26,480 know my 1166 00:36:30,470 --> 00:36:28,800 ron johnson is a very famous experiencer 1167 00:36:34,230 --> 00:36:30,480 who's recorded everything he's happened 1168 00:36:35,510 --> 00:36:34,240 in the last 50 years no he's uh 1169 00:36:37,430 --> 00:36:35,520 really interesting experience throughout 1170 00:36:39,349 --> 00:36:37,440 utah and i said ron i 1171 00:36:40,870 --> 00:36:39,359 i i i've blessed to ask you this 1172 00:36:42,790 --> 00:36:40,880 question before did you ask him if he's 1173 00:36:45,109 --> 00:36:42,800 an alien he said i've asked a hundred 1174 00:36:46,470 --> 00:36:45,119 times they refuse to answer the question 1175 00:36:47,910 --> 00:36:46,480 and that's the thing why would they 1176 00:36:49,109 --> 00:36:47,920 refuse to answer the question because 1177 00:36:50,390 --> 00:36:49,119 you're not going to understand if they 1178 00:36:52,310 --> 00:36:50,400 start talking something 1179 00:36:53,349 --> 00:36:52,320 six levels above quantum physics you're 1180 00:36:54,870 --> 00:36:53,359 not going to understand they've got to 1181 00:36:56,310 --> 00:36:54,880 talk to you at your level 1182 00:36:58,550 --> 00:36:56,320 and then they couldn't use that maybe 1183 00:36:59,910 --> 00:36:58,560 later if they have to yeah right if they 1184 00:37:02,230 --> 00:36:59,920 want to look like an alien again 1185 00:37:03,990 --> 00:37:02,240 yeah we we got to remember john wheeler 1186 00:37:05,670 --> 00:37:04,000 said who who was at princeton the guy 1187 00:37:06,230 --> 00:37:05,680 came up with black hole and wormhole 1188 00:37:07,829 --> 00:37:06,240 theory 1189 00:37:09,270 --> 00:37:07,839 he's the he's the guy that said it's a 1190 00:37:11,829 --> 00:37:09,280 participatory universe 1191 00:37:13,109 --> 00:37:11,839 people keep forgetting that you are part 1192 00:37:15,190 --> 00:37:13,119 of your experience 1193 00:37:17,270 --> 00:37:15,200 it is not a random thing happening to 1194 00:37:20,310 --> 00:37:17,280 you you are part of what you're seeing 1195 00:37:21,750 --> 00:37:20,320 and kit green who is the cia guy who is 1196 00:37:22,630 --> 00:37:21,760 all part of this study for the defense 1197 00:37:23,589 --> 00:37:22,640 department where they were trying to 1198 00:37:25,670 --> 00:37:23,599 figure out how does the 1199 00:37:28,230 --> 00:37:25,680 alien how did this phenomena pop in and 1200 00:37:30,069 --> 00:37:28,240 pop out what what he basically 1201 00:37:31,510 --> 00:37:30,079 uh said is the same thing that you can 1202 00:37:32,710 --> 00:37:31,520 have two people standing beside each 1203 00:37:33,109 --> 00:37:32,720 other and they will see two different 1204 00:37:35,510 --> 00:37:33,119 things 1205 00:37:37,510 --> 00:37:35,520 it's based upon your belief system it's 1206 00:37:38,310 --> 00:37:37,520 all consciousness it's all manifested 1207 00:37:40,069 --> 00:37:38,320 consciousness 1208 00:37:41,910 --> 00:37:40,079 and we have to sort of drop this idea 1209 00:37:43,510 --> 00:37:41,920 that there's a god created 1210 00:37:45,190 --> 00:37:43,520 the heavens and the earth then put man 1211 00:37:47,270 --> 00:37:45,200 on here and then give him consciousness 1212 00:37:48,310 --> 00:37:47,280 consciousness is primary consciousness 1213 00:37:50,230 --> 00:37:48,320 creates matter 1214 00:37:52,150 --> 00:37:50,240 and once you get that straight then it 1215 00:37:54,790 --> 00:37:52,160 starts to make some sense 1216 00:37:55,589 --> 00:37:54,800 uh do you know anything about um well 1217 00:37:58,310 --> 00:37:55,599 i'm sure you do 1218 00:37:59,750 --> 00:37:58,320 but uh my experience involved a dream 1219 00:38:02,230 --> 00:37:59,760 that wound up coming true 1220 00:38:04,710 --> 00:38:02,240 two years later that revolved around a 1221 00:38:06,150 --> 00:38:04,720 tragic family thing and then i saw the 1222 00:38:09,670 --> 00:38:06,160 two things 1223 00:38:12,870 --> 00:38:09,680 within the date the dream came true have 1224 00:38:15,510 --> 00:38:12,880 you heard of anything like that before 1225 00:38:16,390 --> 00:38:15,520 sure yeah i haven't learned more about 1226 00:38:19,349 --> 00:38:16,400 that 1227 00:38:20,310 --> 00:38:19,359 bashar if you're familiar with the 1228 00:38:23,190 --> 00:38:20,320 famous channeler 1229 00:38:24,950 --> 00:38:23,200 daryl anka is the bashar chandler uh 1230 00:38:27,430 --> 00:38:24,960 he's got piles of videos and stuff 1231 00:38:28,470 --> 00:38:27,440 he says we come to you in your dreams 1232 00:38:31,030 --> 00:38:28,480 because now 1233 00:38:33,430 --> 00:38:31,040 you're in our world and that's the whole 1234 00:38:33,750 --> 00:38:33,440 thing it's there in that reality where 1235 00:38:36,710 --> 00:38:33,760 the 1236 00:38:37,750 --> 00:38:36,720 see a lot of people are reporting dead 1237 00:38:39,430 --> 00:38:37,760 people on board the ship 1238 00:38:40,870 --> 00:38:39,440 or i've got 50 people who've flown the 1239 00:38:43,190 --> 00:38:40,880 ship flown the craft 1240 00:38:44,390 --> 00:38:43,200 and they and they'll say to me but i 1241 00:38:45,670 --> 00:38:44,400 think it was a dream i said everybody 1242 00:38:46,150 --> 00:38:45,680 thinks it's a dream just tell me the 1243 00:38:47,270 --> 00:38:46,160 story 1244 00:38:48,630 --> 00:38:47,280 and they'll tell you exactly like 1245 00:38:49,430 --> 00:38:48,640 they're reading off a cue card exactly 1246 00:38:50,870 --> 00:38:49,440 the same story 1247 00:38:53,750 --> 00:38:50,880 about flying being allowed to fly the 1248 00:38:55,270 --> 00:38:53,760 craft and so the the the dream thing i 1249 00:38:57,190 --> 00:38:55,280 i have a theory that i'll eventually do 1250 00:38:58,470 --> 00:38:57,200 a book on but the more i come 1251 00:38:59,910 --> 00:38:58,480 uh and i don't know whether i got this 1252 00:39:00,950 --> 00:38:59,920 noetically over there i just sort of 1253 00:39:03,349 --> 00:39:00,960 figured it out but 1254 00:39:04,870 --> 00:39:03,359 i say it's all the theory of wow that's 1255 00:39:05,910 --> 00:39:04,880 all that's going on that's all the 1256 00:39:07,510 --> 00:39:05,920 phenomena is doing 1257 00:39:09,589 --> 00:39:07,520 it's not doing anything because i people 1258 00:39:10,550 --> 00:39:09,599 will say ufo and i'll say okay so what 1259 00:39:12,710 --> 00:39:10,560 was the ufo doing 1260 00:39:14,069 --> 00:39:12,720 [\h__\h] i wasn't doing anything he was 1261 00:39:15,349 --> 00:39:14,079 just there and then 1262 00:39:16,950 --> 00:39:15,359 how long was it there oh it's a couple 1263 00:39:17,190 --> 00:39:16,960 of couple seconds you think it wanted to 1264 00:39:22,470 --> 00:39:17,200 see 1265 00:39:23,750 --> 00:39:22,480 yeah i think so and and that's the whole 1266 00:39:23,990 --> 00:39:23,760 deal they're not doing anything why do 1267 00:39:29,270 --> 00:39:24,000 you 1268 00:39:30,790 --> 00:39:29,280 yeah that's great that's why they jump 1269 00:39:32,069 --> 00:39:30,800 around like the second night i saw it 1270 00:39:33,670 --> 00:39:32,079 was jumping around the sky 1271 00:39:35,750 --> 00:39:33,680 all over the sky like what is that a 1272 00:39:39,190 --> 00:39:35,760 pre-abduction maneuver no they're going 1273 00:39:41,109 --> 00:39:39,200 to watch this and why do they take the 1274 00:39:42,310 --> 00:39:41,119 blood out of the cow with the mutilation 1275 00:39:44,230 --> 00:39:42,320 because if they don't take the blood out 1276 00:39:45,670 --> 00:39:44,240 of the cow it's not very mysterious 1277 00:39:47,670 --> 00:39:45,680 they want it to be as weird and 1278 00:39:49,109 --> 00:39:47,680 experienced as possible and you start 1279 00:39:49,829 --> 00:39:49,119 looking at all the phenomena crop 1280 00:39:51,510 --> 00:39:49,839 circles 1281 00:39:53,750 --> 00:39:51,520 you look at everything and it's all the 1282 00:39:56,950 --> 00:39:53,760 theory of wow they just want you to go 1283 00:39:59,990 --> 00:39:56,960 that's true what's going on here like uh 1284 00:40:01,510 --> 00:40:00,000 like with a big foot coming and so when 1285 00:40:03,910 --> 00:40:01,520 you have a dream experience 1286 00:40:04,870 --> 00:40:03,920 it makes it it throws you off it throws 1287 00:40:06,390 --> 00:40:04,880 you off the horse 1288 00:40:07,910 --> 00:40:06,400 you go emotional what was that dream 1289 00:40:10,069 --> 00:40:07,920 about and it haunts you 1290 00:40:11,430 --> 00:40:10,079 and it makes you start down the path 1291 00:40:13,349 --> 00:40:11,440 that's what it's doing and it may have 1292 00:40:15,190 --> 00:40:13,359 been you that it's causing a dream 1293 00:40:16,309 --> 00:40:15,200 you set it up because people will 1294 00:40:17,190 --> 00:40:16,319 they'll complain about whatever 1295 00:40:18,230 --> 00:40:17,200 situation 1296 00:40:19,829 --> 00:40:18,240 you know they hate the world and all 1297 00:40:21,190 --> 00:40:19,839 this stuff and i say just remember if 1298 00:40:23,589 --> 00:40:21,200 reincarnation is a fact 1299 00:40:24,390 --> 00:40:23,599 then you and i both chose to be here at 1300 00:40:26,470 --> 00:40:24,400 this time 1301 00:40:27,829 --> 00:40:26,480 in this place in the middle of whatever 1302 00:40:29,670 --> 00:40:27,839 mess we're complaining about 1303 00:40:31,270 --> 00:40:29,680 and maybe we came at this time in this 1304 00:40:32,309 --> 00:40:31,280 place in the middle of this mess for a 1305 00:40:33,750 --> 00:40:32,319 particular reason 1306 00:40:35,510 --> 00:40:33,760 so that's the whole thing we have to 1307 00:40:36,069 --> 00:40:35,520 always take responsibility for what's 1308 00:40:38,069 --> 00:40:36,079 happening 1309 00:40:40,230 --> 00:40:38,079 that may have been you triggering 1310 00:40:42,390 --> 00:40:40,240 yourself to get on the path 1311 00:40:43,589 --> 00:40:42,400 to start with this dream to say what is 1312 00:40:45,910 --> 00:40:43,599 going on here like and 1313 00:40:47,510 --> 00:40:45,920 and you start you do a radio show and a 1314 00:40:48,470 --> 00:40:47,520 male woman plan that you and i had 1315 00:40:49,910 --> 00:40:48,480 before we were born 1316 00:40:51,670 --> 00:40:49,920 we had a plan okay you're going to have 1317 00:40:52,950 --> 00:40:51,680 a dream i'm going to have a ufo saying 1318 00:40:55,670 --> 00:40:52,960 we're gonna have a radio show we're 1319 00:40:58,150 --> 00:40:56,950 because people want to believe that 1320 00:40:59,190 --> 00:40:58,160 random thing they want to believe they 1321 00:41:01,750 --> 00:40:59,200 want the dream 1322 00:41:03,829 --> 00:41:01,760 coming true two years later and then i 1323 00:41:05,430 --> 00:41:03,839 see these things around the fruition of 1324 00:41:08,470 --> 00:41:05,440 that dream two years ago 1325 00:41:09,829 --> 00:41:08,480 there's not a louder sign to me that uh 1326 00:41:11,910 --> 00:41:09,839 hello 1327 00:41:14,390 --> 00:41:11,920 um you know yeah like not supposed to 1328 00:41:17,270 --> 00:41:15,829 that was like my first experience you 1329 00:41:19,109 --> 00:41:17,280 probably know that my first experience i 1330 00:41:20,550 --> 00:41:19,119 had i had no intention of seeing ufo i 1331 00:41:21,910 --> 00:41:20,560 had no interest in whatsoever 1332 00:41:23,270 --> 00:41:21,920 the only reason i went out there was 1333 00:41:24,309 --> 00:41:23,280 because this town was having these 1334 00:41:25,589 --> 00:41:24,319 things all the time 1335 00:41:27,349 --> 00:41:25,599 and we were wasting our time driving 1336 00:41:27,910 --> 00:41:27,359 around the city we didn't we're bored as 1337 00:41:28,950 --> 00:41:27,920 could be 1338 00:41:31,030 --> 00:41:28,960 and i said let's go see what they're 1339 00:41:32,790 --> 00:41:31,040 looking at and i i thought it was like 1340 00:41:34,150 --> 00:41:32,800 the lottery ticket you you buy the 1341 00:41:35,270 --> 00:41:34,160 lottery ticket knowing there's a chance 1342 00:41:36,150 --> 00:41:35,280 you can win but you're not going to win 1343 00:41:37,109 --> 00:41:36,160 anything you're not going to see 1344 00:41:38,710 --> 00:41:37,119 anything everybody else 1345 00:41:40,309 --> 00:41:38,720 you're not going to see anything and i 1346 00:41:42,069 --> 00:41:40,319 was just floored when i saw it i went 1347 00:41:43,589 --> 00:41:42,079 whoa and it's like and that was what 1348 00:41:44,470 --> 00:41:43,599 started me down that road and all the 1349 00:41:45,750 --> 00:41:44,480 rest of my friends 1350 00:41:47,430 --> 00:41:45,760 they sort of went out with their life 1351 00:41:48,150 --> 00:41:47,440 and i just sort of like i couldn't get 1352 00:41:51,430 --> 00:41:48,160 enough 1353 00:41:53,829 --> 00:41:51,440 and it moved me down that path and um 1354 00:41:55,910 --> 00:41:53,839 so i think that's a lot a big part of it 1355 00:41:57,270 --> 00:41:55,920 is that the world is a lot less random 1356 00:41:58,950 --> 00:41:57,280 than people think it is 1357 00:42:00,870 --> 00:41:58,960 and it's just experience there's there's 1358 00:42:02,470 --> 00:42:00,880 not this good or bad people want to 1359 00:42:04,790 --> 00:42:02,480 make it turn into always turn it into a 1360 00:42:05,109 --> 00:42:04,800 football game where it's me versus you 1361 00:42:10,309 --> 00:42:05,119 and 1362 00:42:11,829 --> 00:42:10,319 always included holding against us he's 1363 00:42:12,390 --> 00:42:11,839 always on the other side and he's paid 1364 00:42:14,950 --> 00:42:12,400 off and 1365 00:42:15,589 --> 00:42:14,960 we want to have this or even in ufo 1366 00:42:18,630 --> 00:42:15,599 movies 1367 00:42:20,069 --> 00:42:18,640 do a movie where 1368 00:42:21,750 --> 00:42:20,079 there's no evil aliens because it 1369 00:42:23,430 --> 00:42:21,760 doesn't sell tickets so you want the 1370 00:42:25,190 --> 00:42:23,440 evil alien in the movie and you want 1371 00:42:25,510 --> 00:42:25,200 this adversarial and then the americans 1372 00:42:27,349 --> 00:42:25,520 win 1373 00:42:29,190 --> 00:42:27,359 and and you know everything's great and 1374 00:42:29,990 --> 00:42:29,200 the world goes on and that's that's how 1375 00:42:32,069 --> 00:42:30,000 you build it 1376 00:42:33,829 --> 00:42:32,079 because that's what sells tickets but 1377 00:42:35,349 --> 00:42:33,839 when you when you get down to it it's 1378 00:42:37,589 --> 00:42:35,359 all this thing where 1379 00:42:39,510 --> 00:42:37,599 we are in this uh whether it's a 1380 00:42:41,589 --> 00:42:39,520 simulated universe or whatever it is 1381 00:42:43,109 --> 00:42:41,599 it's all consciousness and we are the 1382 00:42:46,470 --> 00:42:43,119 creators of our own 1383 00:42:48,230 --> 00:42:46,480 our own experiences and if reincarnation 1384 00:42:49,829 --> 00:42:48,240 is a fact there's no doubt 1385 00:42:51,829 --> 00:42:49,839 that you and i both came here to do 1386 00:42:52,950 --> 00:42:51,839 something that's you're not going to do 1387 00:42:55,190 --> 00:42:52,960 stupid 1388 00:42:56,390 --> 00:42:55,200 random life something that kind of uh 1389 00:42:57,910 --> 00:42:56,400 backs that up 1390 00:42:59,750 --> 00:42:57,920 personally a little bit so my first 1391 00:43:01,990 --> 00:42:59,760 experience was a dream uh 1392 00:43:04,230 --> 00:43:02,000 probably beginning in my 20s i won't go 1393 00:43:06,390 --> 00:43:04,240 through the whole dream but basically 1394 00:43:08,309 --> 00:43:06,400 i get to a point where i see you what i 1395 00:43:09,109 --> 00:43:08,319 know to be jesus christ which goes back 1396 00:43:10,470 --> 00:43:09,119 to 1397 00:43:12,390 --> 00:43:10,480 they say show you what you're familiar 1398 00:43:15,990 --> 00:43:12,400 with i was raised christian um 1399 00:43:20,870 --> 00:43:16,000 and then it says to me sean 1400 00:43:26,390 --> 00:43:24,390 yeah and like it took forever 1401 00:43:27,829 --> 00:43:26,400 to figure out what that meant to me but 1402 00:43:30,069 --> 00:43:27,839 i think in the end it just 1403 00:43:31,990 --> 00:43:30,079 means what you're talking about at 1404 00:43:34,069 --> 00:43:32,000 school we came here for a reason what 1405 00:43:35,670 --> 00:43:34,079 you know to learn and that's the 1406 00:43:37,190 --> 00:43:35,680 important part about it is when you have 1407 00:43:38,790 --> 00:43:37,200 a noetic experience like that when you 1408 00:43:40,150 --> 00:43:38,800 hear that voice somebody say oh you just 1409 00:43:42,230 --> 00:43:40,160 imagine the voice and you go 1410 00:43:44,069 --> 00:43:42,240 no i heard the voice and it me it's very 1411 00:43:47,589 --> 00:43:44,079 meaningful because you know 1412 00:43:49,030 --> 00:43:47,599 it's like god you're waking up crying 1413 00:43:50,069 --> 00:43:49,040 and and you realize like this is 1414 00:43:51,430 --> 00:43:50,079 something i gotta remember and that's 1415 00:43:53,990 --> 00:43:51,440 what happened to me when i had this 1416 00:43:55,190 --> 00:43:54,000 noetic experience in 2017 i said write 1417 00:43:56,550 --> 00:43:55,200 this down right and it started to come 1418 00:43:58,390 --> 00:43:56,560 and i'm trying to write this stuff down 1419 00:43:59,990 --> 00:43:58,400 and then it sort of stopped for maybe 1420 00:44:01,270 --> 00:44:00,000 a minute or two put my glove back on 1421 00:44:02,790 --> 00:44:01,280 kept walking all of a sudden just start 1422 00:44:04,470 --> 00:44:02,800 again take the glove off and i write the 1423 00:44:05,829 --> 00:44:04,480 stuff and i would never remember any of 1424 00:44:07,510 --> 00:44:05,839 it if i hadn't written it down 1425 00:44:09,109 --> 00:44:07,520 and that's the whole thing is you get 1426 00:44:11,750 --> 00:44:09,119 these noetic experiences where 1427 00:44:12,710 --> 00:44:11,760 for a second you pop into the field you 1428 00:44:14,069 --> 00:44:12,720 get something 1429 00:44:16,069 --> 00:44:14,079 and you got to work off that because 1430 00:44:17,750 --> 00:44:16,079 that's probably you putting the clue 1431 00:44:20,309 --> 00:44:17,760 that's you it's like the idea or the 1432 00:44:21,270 --> 00:44:20,319 expression is we put the stones in our 1433 00:44:22,790 --> 00:44:21,280 own path 1434 00:44:24,390 --> 00:44:22,800 this is not random we're we're doing 1435 00:44:25,589 --> 00:44:24,400 this stuff we're the ones that are 1436 00:44:26,630 --> 00:44:25,599 setting it and you're trying to wake 1437 00:44:27,910 --> 00:44:26,640 yourself up you're trying to get 1438 00:44:29,990 --> 00:44:27,920 yourself on the path 1439 00:44:31,430 --> 00:44:30,000 and that's where meditation comes so you 1440 00:44:33,349 --> 00:44:31,440 quite you're trying to quiet the left 1441 00:44:34,470 --> 00:44:33,359 brain and pick up that signal again what 1442 00:44:36,309 --> 00:44:34,480 am i supposed to do now 1443 00:44:38,069 --> 00:44:36,319 meditate because the left brain will say 1444 00:44:40,069 --> 00:44:38,079 this this and it'll be talking away 1445 00:44:41,910 --> 00:44:40,079 but if you can quiet that down that the 1446 00:44:43,190 --> 00:44:41,920 noetic material is the real material 1447 00:44:43,829 --> 00:44:43,200 everything all the answers are in the 1448 00:44:45,670 --> 00:44:43,839 field 1449 00:44:47,190 --> 00:44:45,680 and that's where you get these savants 1450 00:44:48,230 --> 00:44:47,200 who are never wrong when they go in the 1451 00:44:49,510 --> 00:44:48,240 field and get the material 1452 00:44:51,349 --> 00:44:49,520 it's not two out of three they get the 1453 00:44:53,109 --> 00:44:51,359 answer exactly right every time the 1454 00:44:55,190 --> 00:44:53,119 answer is there it's the ability 1455 00:44:57,030 --> 00:44:55,200 to quiet it get in there so when you 1456 00:44:59,270 --> 00:44:57,040 have that voice that tells you that 1457 00:45:00,550 --> 00:44:59,280 you know oh pay attention to this it's 1458 00:45:02,069 --> 00:45:00,560 not imaginary 1459 00:45:04,710 --> 00:45:02,079 and that's the important stuff you gotta 1460 00:45:05,990 --> 00:45:04,720 you gotta write down catalog it and and 1461 00:45:08,950 --> 00:45:06,000 follow it 1462 00:45:10,470 --> 00:45:08,960 well uh i think you just touched on 1463 00:45:12,870 --> 00:45:10,480 something as far as musicians 1464 00:45:14,710 --> 00:45:12,880 uh experiencing stuff because i 1465 00:45:15,990 --> 00:45:14,720 personally treat when i write songs and 1466 00:45:19,670 --> 00:45:16,000 perform songs 1467 00:45:22,150 --> 00:45:19,680 when i'm alone or on a stage uh 1468 00:45:23,670 --> 00:45:22,160 it's meditation it provides my brain i 1469 00:45:25,430 --> 00:45:23,680 don't think about anything else but 1470 00:45:28,790 --> 00:45:25,440 living in those vibrations 1471 00:45:29,670 --> 00:45:28,800 yeah um so yeah a lot of musicians will 1472 00:45:32,630 --> 00:45:29,680 talk about that 1473 00:45:33,750 --> 00:45:32,640 even they asked yoko ono they asked yoko 1474 00:45:37,430 --> 00:45:33,760 no what about the beatles 1475 00:45:38,950 --> 00:45:37,440 like what why were they so famous 1476 00:45:42,150 --> 00:45:38,960 or something and you know what she said 1477 00:45:43,910 --> 00:45:42,160 she said it's kind of like channeling 1478 00:45:45,430 --> 00:45:43,920 she said it's kind of like challenge 1479 00:45:47,829 --> 00:45:45,440 that's how they got their stuff 1480 00:45:48,550 --> 00:45:47,839 and that's all let me tell you a funny 1481 00:45:50,470 --> 00:45:48,560 story i've heard 1482 00:45:52,150 --> 00:45:50,480 you've read my book i'll i have seen my 1483 00:45:53,910 --> 00:45:52,160 lecture on i'll tell you this 1484 00:45:55,910 --> 00:45:53,920 i'll tell you two really bizarre stories 1485 00:45:57,030 --> 00:45:55,920 and show you how linkedin the music 1486 00:46:03,190 --> 00:45:57,040 stuff is 1487 00:46:06,710 --> 00:46:05,829 so bono goes to um he tells the story he 1488 00:46:09,910 --> 00:46:06,720 goes to 1489 00:46:12,710 --> 00:46:09,920 um wembley stating he's playing and 1490 00:46:13,670 --> 00:46:12,720 um he's he can't sleep he has problems 1491 00:46:14,790 --> 00:46:13,680 with sleeping all the time 1492 00:46:16,710 --> 00:46:14,800 so he's up in the middle of the night 1493 00:46:19,270 --> 00:46:16,720 and he's playing this song this 1494 00:46:20,470 --> 00:46:19,280 movie called blue velvet where roy 1495 00:46:23,750 --> 00:46:20,480 everson sings 1496 00:46:26,470 --> 00:46:23,760 uh miss um mystery woman 1497 00:46:27,750 --> 00:46:26,480 um is it mystery woman no dream woman 1498 00:46:28,950 --> 00:46:27,760 anyway you got in the dream mystery 1499 00:46:32,230 --> 00:46:28,960 woman he got in a dream 1500 00:46:35,109 --> 00:46:32,240 and yeah and in this in this um 1501 00:46:35,510 --> 00:46:35,119 movie he's singing this song and and and 1502 00:46:39,349 --> 00:46:35,520 and 1503 00:46:40,950 --> 00:46:39,359 listening to song over again 1504 00:46:43,109 --> 00:46:40,960 and then finally falls asleep late in 1505 00:46:44,550 --> 00:46:43,119 the morning and he wakes up and he's got 1506 00:46:46,230 --> 00:46:44,560 this song and he goes 1507 00:46:47,829 --> 00:46:46,240 hey that song that's that's like a roy 1508 00:46:49,270 --> 00:46:47,839 everson song and he goes 1509 00:46:50,630 --> 00:46:49,280 that's kind of weird so he goes to 1510 00:46:52,390 --> 00:46:50,640 wembley in the morning and they're doing 1511 00:46:53,910 --> 00:46:52,400 their preset thing and he's telling the 1512 00:46:54,390 --> 00:46:53,920 other guy says man i got this song it 1513 00:46:56,230 --> 00:46:54,400 sounds 1514 00:46:57,910 --> 00:46:56,240 and he sort of hums it to them or 1515 00:46:58,230 --> 00:46:57,920 whatever and they say yeah it does sound 1516 00:47:00,630 --> 00:46:58,240 like 1517 00:47:02,309 --> 00:47:00,640 robertson and he goes they say you 1518 00:47:03,270 --> 00:47:02,319 should do that song he says okay so they 1519 00:47:05,190 --> 00:47:03,280 play at wembley 1520 00:47:07,030 --> 00:47:05,200 and then he's in the dressing room after 1521 00:47:08,390 --> 00:47:07,040 down below and he said all of a sudden 1522 00:47:10,230 --> 00:47:08,400 there's this knock on the door 1523 00:47:11,829 --> 00:47:10,240 and the security guy's there and he says 1524 00:47:13,430 --> 00:47:11,839 hey somebody wants to see you 1525 00:47:15,510 --> 00:47:13,440 he says hey i'm trying to write this 1526 00:47:16,230 --> 00:47:15,520 song he says who's here he says pearl 1527 00:47:18,309 --> 00:47:16,240 harbeson 1528 00:47:20,150 --> 00:47:18,319 he said roberson's here he said yeah 1529 00:47:22,630 --> 00:47:20,160 he's from america to see your show 1530 00:47:23,990 --> 00:47:22,640 say go tell him come in so rory everson 1531 00:47:25,750 --> 00:47:24,000 comes in he says man you guys are 1532 00:47:27,190 --> 00:47:25,760 fantastic he said that's you're 1533 00:47:28,549 --> 00:47:27,200 unbelievable he said man i'd love to 1534 00:47:29,910 --> 00:47:28,559 play with you do you happen to have a 1535 00:47:32,549 --> 00:47:29,920 song we could do and he says 1536 00:47:33,910 --> 00:47:32,559 yeah i kind of got one and they they do 1537 00:47:35,190 --> 00:47:33,920 this song and it goes number two in the 1538 00:47:37,589 --> 00:47:35,200 united states and number 1539 00:47:39,430 --> 00:47:37,599 eight in in in europe and it was a song 1540 00:47:41,510 --> 00:47:39,440 that that he got in a dream 1541 00:47:43,910 --> 00:47:41,520 and the other one was was um the story 1542 00:47:45,109 --> 00:47:43,920 of um uh john lennon just before he died 1543 00:47:47,270 --> 00:47:45,119 in fact this is the last song 1544 00:47:48,790 --> 00:47:47,280 i've heard about that it's the last 1545 00:47:50,309 --> 00:47:48,800 words in his journal 1546 00:47:52,309 --> 00:47:50,319 and that's the first two lines of the 1547 00:47:53,910 --> 00:47:52,319 song and so he um 1548 00:47:55,829 --> 00:47:53,920 yoko ono gets this song and if you ever 1549 00:47:57,430 --> 00:47:55,839 heard her singing it's terrible but 1550 00:47:58,870 --> 00:47:57,440 she gets this song and they both believe 1551 00:48:00,470 --> 00:47:58,880 they were the reincarnation of robert 1552 00:48:01,990 --> 00:48:00,480 and elizabeth browning 1553 00:48:03,750 --> 00:48:02,000 and they actually in one of their albums 1554 00:48:06,870 --> 00:48:03,760 they actually dress up like them 1555 00:48:07,349 --> 00:48:06,880 and so she has she wait she wakes up one 1556 00:48:09,750 --> 00:48:07,359 morning 1557 00:48:10,630 --> 00:48:09,760 and she's got a uh elizabeth browning 1558 00:48:13,109 --> 00:48:10,640 song and it's 1559 00:48:13,910 --> 00:48:13,119 a verse in her head and she's got the 1560 00:48:15,589 --> 00:48:13,920 music to it 1561 00:48:17,589 --> 00:48:15,599 and so she phones up john and he's in 1562 00:48:19,190 --> 00:48:17,599 the bahamas she says john 1563 00:48:21,349 --> 00:48:19,200 you're never going to believe this i got 1564 00:48:23,109 --> 00:48:21,359 this elizabeth browning 1565 00:48:24,870 --> 00:48:23,119 uh the thing is she sings in this song 1566 00:48:25,510 --> 00:48:24,880 with this this poem from elizabeth 1567 00:48:27,030 --> 00:48:25,520 browning 1568 00:48:29,030 --> 00:48:27,040 and he says that's really good and she 1569 00:48:30,150 --> 00:48:29,040 says yeah okay now you get me from 1570 00:48:31,589 --> 00:48:30,160 robert browning because 1571 00:48:33,670 --> 00:48:31,599 they believe they're the reincarnation 1572 00:48:34,230 --> 00:48:33,680 of these two poets so he says okay he 1573 00:48:37,430 --> 00:48:34,240 says 1574 00:48:39,910 --> 00:48:37,440 me the the 1575 00:48:41,349 --> 00:48:39,920 these the poems from robert browning and 1576 00:48:41,910 --> 00:48:41,359 i'll pick one and i'll make a song for 1577 00:48:43,589 --> 00:48:41,920 you 1578 00:48:45,430 --> 00:48:43,599 because there's no there's no internet 1579 00:48:47,190 --> 00:48:45,440 there's nothing eh and so she says okay 1580 00:48:48,230 --> 00:48:47,200 he says five hours later he phones her 1581 00:48:48,630 --> 00:48:48,240 back he says you're not gonna believe 1582 00:48:55,430 --> 00:48:48,640 this 1583 00:48:59,030 --> 00:48:55,440 who his girlfriend sends him uh um a 1584 00:49:01,190 --> 00:48:59,040 message and it's a robert browning poem 1585 00:49:02,150 --> 00:49:01,200 and he said so he makes this song and he 1586 00:49:04,150 --> 00:49:02,160 sings it for her 1587 00:49:05,270 --> 00:49:04,160 and it's when when we have when we have 1588 00:49:07,270 --> 00:49:05,280 when we're gone 1589 00:49:08,790 --> 00:49:07,280 uh we will be as one something like that 1590 00:49:09,190 --> 00:49:08,800 you know our love will continue or 1591 00:49:10,790 --> 00:49:09,200 whatever 1592 00:49:13,190 --> 00:49:10,800 and he makes the song with the robert 1593 00:49:15,990 --> 00:49:13,200 browning poem and um 1594 00:49:16,390 --> 00:49:16,000 he uh get gets at the synchronistic 1595 00:49:19,190 --> 00:49:16,400 thing 1596 00:49:20,390 --> 00:49:19,200 and they play it in a they compose it in 1597 00:49:22,630 --> 00:49:20,400 the bedroom 1598 00:49:24,549 --> 00:49:22,640 and it's basically it was released uh 1599 00:49:25,349 --> 00:49:24,559 after he dies it's the last song they 1600 00:49:27,109 --> 00:49:25,359 did 1601 00:49:29,030 --> 00:49:27,119 and it's a song about how they will 1602 00:49:31,030 --> 00:49:29,040 always be together they'll always be one 1603 00:49:32,309 --> 00:49:31,040 and it was this bizarre story of this 1604 00:49:34,390 --> 00:49:32,319 synchronicity where 1605 00:49:36,230 --> 00:49:34,400 they both believed they got these these 1606 00:49:36,710 --> 00:49:36,240 songs from robert and elizabeth browning 1607 00:49:41,030 --> 00:49:36,720 from the 1608 00:49:42,790 --> 00:49:41,040 composed these songs and it and the 1609 00:49:44,309 --> 00:49:42,800 first two lines of this song 1610 00:49:46,870 --> 00:49:44,319 apparently are the last two lines in his 1611 00:49:49,829 --> 00:49:46,880 journal so you get these really weird 1612 00:49:50,230 --> 00:49:49,839 musical stories that are just like wow 1613 00:49:53,510 --> 00:49:50,240 just 1614 00:49:56,549 --> 00:49:53,520 i believe it i believe it um 1615 00:49:59,510 --> 00:49:56,559 i've had my own like just as a 1616 00:50:01,430 --> 00:49:59,520 16 year old kid uh crying touching my 1617 00:50:04,549 --> 00:50:01,440 john lennon poster thinking i'm him 1618 00:50:07,190 --> 00:50:04,559 like stuff like that like it's weird 1619 00:50:08,549 --> 00:50:07,200 um you know especially like no one 1620 00:50:11,589 --> 00:50:08,559 listened to that stuff 1621 00:50:13,510 --> 00:50:11,599 then like it was all 90s rock at that 1622 00:50:16,630 --> 00:50:13,520 point nobody cared about the beatles 1623 00:50:17,270 --> 00:50:16,640 yeah so but yeah it's very very moving 1624 00:50:19,030 --> 00:50:17,280 and touching 1625 00:50:20,630 --> 00:50:19,040 and yeah you know i appreciate you 1626 00:50:22,950 --> 00:50:20,640 coming on here and let me know 1627 00:50:24,069 --> 00:50:22,960 about all that stuff um yeah i'll give 1628 00:50:26,630 --> 00:50:24,079 you another one i'll give you another 1629 00:50:28,630 --> 00:50:26,640 red one keep going as long as you can 1630 00:50:30,150 --> 00:50:28,640 yeah i i get these synchronicities like 1631 00:50:31,430 --> 00:50:30,160 neil young the fact that neil young came 1632 00:50:33,270 --> 00:50:31,440 from winnipeg 1633 00:50:34,549 --> 00:50:33,280 uh and the other one was the other big 1634 00:50:35,750 --> 00:50:34,559 band it was the biggest band that came 1635 00:50:38,950 --> 00:50:35,760 out of canada was the 1636 00:50:40,150 --> 00:50:38,960 was the guess who and uh so when i was 1637 00:50:42,230 --> 00:50:40,160 when i was looking at this thing i 1638 00:50:43,910 --> 00:50:42,240 actually started to look at although it 1639 00:50:45,670 --> 00:50:43,920 was always the lead singer was the was 1640 00:50:46,710 --> 00:50:45,680 the guy who had the ufo experiences was 1641 00:50:48,470 --> 00:50:46,720 the abductee 1642 00:50:49,910 --> 00:50:48,480 and um i've got four bands that were 1643 00:50:50,790 --> 00:50:49,920 actually abducted the entire band was 1644 00:50:52,950 --> 00:50:50,800 abducted but 1645 00:50:54,390 --> 00:50:52,960 um so i was looking at burton cummings i 1646 00:50:56,710 --> 00:50:54,400 said i wonder if burton cummings was 1647 00:50:58,790 --> 00:50:56,720 abducted i put in burton cummings ufo 1648 00:51:00,870 --> 00:50:58,800 alien abduction and his facebook page 1649 00:51:01,589 --> 00:51:00,880 pops up and he says i'm 64 years old 1650 00:51:03,190 --> 00:51:01,599 i'll say whatever 1651 00:51:04,470 --> 00:51:03,200 and he's in writing in caps like he's 1652 00:51:05,190 --> 00:51:04,480 yelling i'll say whatever the hell i 1653 00:51:06,790 --> 00:51:05,200 want to do 1654 00:51:08,470 --> 00:51:06,800 they're never mistreating whitley 1655 00:51:09,589 --> 00:51:08,480 strieber i know how he feels i'm going 1656 00:51:11,430 --> 00:51:09,599 oh 1657 00:51:12,870 --> 00:51:11,440 but anyway they had a song the biggest 1658 00:51:14,150 --> 00:51:12,880 song they ever composed was american 1659 00:51:16,790 --> 00:51:14,160 woman this is the one that 1660 00:51:17,589 --> 00:51:16,800 that uh nixon's wife wanted them to sing 1661 00:51:18,870 --> 00:51:17,599 at the white house 1662 00:51:21,030 --> 00:51:18,880 and it was banned they were not allowed 1663 00:51:21,349 --> 00:51:21,040 to sing this thing at the white house 1664 00:51:23,670 --> 00:51:21,359 but 1665 00:51:25,349 --> 00:51:23,680 anyway they were in mississauga ontario 1666 00:51:26,390 --> 00:51:25,359 and the story was burton cummings tells 1667 00:51:29,270 --> 00:51:26,400 the story that they were 1668 00:51:30,950 --> 00:51:29,280 on on set and and bachmann breaks one of 1669 00:51:32,549 --> 00:51:30,960 his strings and so they stop and he goes 1670 00:51:33,270 --> 00:51:32,559 back and he's buying some records from 1671 00:51:36,150 --> 00:51:33,280 some guy 1672 00:51:37,430 --> 00:51:36,160 in behind the set and um he's talking to 1673 00:51:39,750 --> 00:51:37,440 this guy and all of a sudden 1674 00:51:41,109 --> 00:51:39,760 bachmann gets these the string back on 1675 00:51:42,150 --> 00:51:41,119 and he's just oh they're starting up 1676 00:51:43,270 --> 00:51:42,160 again i gotta go back and he goes 1677 00:51:44,870 --> 00:51:43,280 running back on the stage i got the 1678 00:51:45,829 --> 00:51:44,880 records later he goes back and running 1679 00:51:48,870 --> 00:51:45,839 back on the stage 1680 00:51:49,990 --> 00:51:48,880 and and bachmann is uh randy bachman is 1681 00:51:51,990 --> 00:51:50,000 playing this riff 1682 00:51:53,109 --> 00:51:52,000 and he says sing something and he goes 1683 00:51:55,430 --> 00:51:53,119 america come on man 1684 00:51:56,710 --> 00:51:55,440 stay away from me they sing this whole 1685 00:51:58,870 --> 00:51:56,720 thing and uh 1686 00:52:00,069 --> 00:51:58,880 at the end of the during the second set 1687 00:52:01,670 --> 00:52:00,079 they see there's a kid 1688 00:52:03,109 --> 00:52:01,680 in the front row and this is when 1689 00:52:04,309 --> 00:52:03,119 handheld tape recorders came out 1690 00:52:05,829 --> 00:52:04,319 and this kid is holding this tape 1691 00:52:07,109 --> 00:52:05,839 recorder up and they realize this kid's 1692 00:52:09,190 --> 00:52:07,119 gonna bootleg the show 1693 00:52:11,109 --> 00:52:09,200 so they they tell them the manager get 1694 00:52:12,470 --> 00:52:11,119 the kids tape get that tape off that kid 1695 00:52:14,150 --> 00:52:12,480 so he doesn't bootleg it so they grab 1696 00:52:14,790 --> 00:52:14,160 the kids tape and at the end they're 1697 00:52:16,710 --> 00:52:14,800 sitting there 1698 00:52:18,470 --> 00:52:16,720 after and they're they're playing in his 1699 00:52:20,630 --> 00:52:18,480 second set they're playing second set 1700 00:52:21,589 --> 00:52:20,640 and the first song is american woman and 1701 00:52:22,230 --> 00:52:21,599 they're all looking at each other and 1702 00:52:24,069 --> 00:52:22,240 going 1703 00:52:25,750 --> 00:52:24,079 where'd that come from they don't 1704 00:52:26,549 --> 00:52:25,760 remember singing it they don't remember 1705 00:52:28,150 --> 00:52:26,559 composing it 1706 00:52:29,430 --> 00:52:28,160 nothing and they said if it hadn't been 1707 00:52:30,230 --> 00:52:29,440 for the kid with the handheld tape 1708 00:52:31,829 --> 00:52:30,240 recorder the 1709 00:52:33,349 --> 00:52:31,839 song american woman which was number one 1710 00:52:34,870 --> 00:52:33,359 in the united states for three weeks the 1711 00:52:36,549 --> 00:52:34,880 biggest selling song in canada 1712 00:52:38,470 --> 00:52:36,559 would not have existed they have no idea 1713 00:52:39,750 --> 00:52:38,480 how it was one of the 1714 00:52:41,750 --> 00:52:39,760 so i actually in the book i actually 1715 00:52:43,990 --> 00:52:41,760 have a whole list of spontaneous songs 1716 00:52:44,870 --> 00:52:44,000 that came sting's biggest song came he 1717 00:52:47,910 --> 00:52:44,880 said five minutes 1718 00:52:49,109 --> 00:52:47,920 ten minutes tops or i do i do a lot of 1719 00:52:52,069 --> 00:52:49,119 musicians where 1720 00:52:52,870 --> 00:52:52,079 uh they talk about how this song came uh 1721 00:52:55,750 --> 00:52:52,880 the guy 1722 00:52:56,630 --> 00:52:55,760 chris martin from um yeah cool play 1723 00:52:58,470 --> 00:52:56,640 coldplay 1724 00:52:59,670 --> 00:52:58,480 he has the one where his ex-wife tells 1725 00:53:01,270 --> 00:52:59,680 the story where he's sitting at the 1726 00:53:02,870 --> 00:53:01,280 at the dinner table and she says all of 1727 00:53:04,870 --> 00:53:02,880 a sudden this strange look comes over 1728 00:53:06,390 --> 00:53:04,880 his face and he says 1729 00:53:08,069 --> 00:53:06,400 hang on he goes running upstairs she 1730 00:53:09,829 --> 00:53:08,079 says it was three minutes 1731 00:53:11,349 --> 00:53:09,839 come up here listen to this yeah replace 1732 00:53:13,109 --> 00:53:11,359 the song and it had like i 1733 00:53:14,390 --> 00:53:13,119 i was a billion hits or something it was 1734 00:53:15,589 --> 00:53:14,400 like unbelievable 1735 00:53:17,030 --> 00:53:15,599 and that's the thing you start hearing 1736 00:53:17,750 --> 00:53:17,040 that and that's when you start it's like 1737 00:53:20,309 --> 00:53:17,760 a chess game 1738 00:53:21,589 --> 00:53:20,319 you go like what's going on and you sit 1739 00:53:23,270 --> 00:53:21,599 there and you look at it and you say 1740 00:53:25,109 --> 00:53:23,280 this is not random this is going on for 1741 00:53:26,630 --> 00:53:25,119 a reason there's a reason behind this 1742 00:53:27,910 --> 00:53:26,640 nothing's happening by accident 1743 00:53:29,190 --> 00:53:27,920 and you start trying to put this thing 1744 00:53:29,990 --> 00:53:29,200 together where are these getting these 1745 00:53:31,349 --> 00:53:30,000 songs from 1746 00:53:33,030 --> 00:53:31,359 and it comes to this idea of there's a 1747 00:53:34,549 --> 00:53:33,040 field everything's in the field and 1748 00:53:36,309 --> 00:53:34,559 musicians are very right-brained 1749 00:53:38,470 --> 00:53:36,319 they don't then they're not very you 1750 00:53:39,829 --> 00:53:38,480 know lawyers they're not engineers 1751 00:53:40,950 --> 00:53:39,839 they're they sit there and wait like 1752 00:53:42,549 --> 00:53:40,960 where does the song come from you can 1753 00:53:43,990 --> 00:53:42,559 ask them where's the song coming they go 1754 00:53:45,670 --> 00:53:44,000 i know i just sat there and i waited for 1755 00:53:47,430 --> 00:53:45,680 it to come into my head that's how 1756 00:53:49,030 --> 00:53:47,440 you just get their songs no that's 1757 00:53:52,549 --> 00:53:49,040 completely true i've written 1758 00:53:55,109 --> 00:53:52,559 hundreds of songs for 20 years what i do 1759 00:53:56,069 --> 00:53:55,119 is literally sit there and look at a 1760 00:53:58,630 --> 00:53:56,079 piece of paper while 1761 00:53:59,589 --> 00:53:58,640 words cycle through my head and one pops 1762 00:54:01,430 --> 00:53:59,599 out and sticks 1763 00:54:02,790 --> 00:54:01,440 that's literally it and sometimes after 1764 00:54:03,430 --> 00:54:02,800 the song's done and you're done with the 1765 00:54:06,150 --> 00:54:03,440 lyrics 1766 00:54:06,630 --> 00:54:06,160 you don't even know what it's about yeah 1767 00:54:09,190 --> 00:54:06,640 you know 1768 00:54:09,990 --> 00:54:09,200 until much afterwards even and yet 1769 00:54:12,630 --> 00:54:10,000 people think that 1770 00:54:13,349 --> 00:54:12,640 music is they they mistake it with left 1771 00:54:16,790 --> 00:54:13,359 brain music 1772 00:54:17,109 --> 00:54:16,800 when he's five years old and you put him 1773 00:54:19,670 --> 00:54:17,119 in 1774 00:54:21,829 --> 00:54:19,680 piano lessons and he learns music theory 1775 00:54:24,150 --> 00:54:21,839 and he learns how to read notes and he 1776 00:54:25,829 --> 00:54:24,160 and he he practice practice that's is 1777 00:54:28,630 --> 00:54:25,839 memorizing that's left brain 1778 00:54:29,990 --> 00:54:28,640 and the kid the kid will maybe be a good 1779 00:54:31,910 --> 00:54:30,000 person who can read music 1780 00:54:33,990 --> 00:54:31,920 and can imitate music but he'll never 1781 00:54:34,950 --> 00:54:34,000 create anything that that we basically 1782 00:54:38,470 --> 00:54:34,960 know that it's the 1783 00:54:40,390 --> 00:54:38,480 left brain people that that jazz blues 1784 00:54:41,510 --> 00:54:40,400 rap none of that stuff is written down 1785 00:54:42,630 --> 00:54:41,520 you just sit there and you wait for it 1786 00:54:44,710 --> 00:54:42,640 to come in your head 1787 00:54:46,069 --> 00:54:44,720 and that's where paul mccartney said 1788 00:54:47,910 --> 00:54:46,079 i've never played a scale 1789 00:54:49,349 --> 00:54:47,920 nor do i ever intend to play a scale 1790 00:54:51,270 --> 00:54:49,359 because it'll ruin my music 1791 00:54:53,430 --> 00:54:51,280 and people don't realize how many 1792 00:54:53,670 --> 00:54:53,440 musicians jackie gleason was one he had 1793 00:54:59,030 --> 00:54:53,680 an 1794 00:55:00,789 --> 00:54:59,040 could not read music 1795 00:55:02,710 --> 00:55:00,799 but he could tell when somebody in the 1796 00:55:03,190 --> 00:55:02,720 orchestra had hit a wrong note he could 1797 00:55:05,109 --> 00:55:03,200 tell 1798 00:55:06,309 --> 00:55:05,119 and he would have his songs and he would 1799 00:55:08,230 --> 00:55:06,319 do a lot of them use it 1800 00:55:09,430 --> 00:55:08,240 is where they would say i got a song and 1801 00:55:10,069 --> 00:55:09,440 you write it down and some guy would 1802 00:55:12,309 --> 00:55:10,079 write it down 1803 00:55:13,670 --> 00:55:12,319 and the guy would him you know sing the 1804 00:55:13,990 --> 00:55:13,680 song to him and the other guy would 1805 00:55:15,750 --> 00:55:14,000 write 1806 00:55:17,750 --> 00:55:15,760 the music notes down because jackie 1807 00:55:20,150 --> 00:55:17,760 gleason couldn't he had 20 albums 1808 00:55:22,309 --> 00:55:20,160 and an orchestra it's just weird you 1809 00:55:24,390 --> 00:55:22,319 know this carlos guy is just so ignorant 1810 00:55:25,670 --> 00:55:24,400 i gotta i gotta tell you carlos you know 1811 00:55:29,270 --> 00:55:25,680 there's a difference between 1812 00:55:31,430 --> 00:55:29,280 jamming in a number one hit okay so 1813 00:55:33,030 --> 00:55:31,440 so if you think that you're funny is 1814 00:55:35,750 --> 00:55:33,040 saying oh a jam 1815 00:55:37,030 --> 00:55:35,760 and that's the same thing i'm not 1816 00:55:39,109 --> 00:55:37,040 ignorant to that 1817 00:55:40,630 --> 00:55:39,119 yeah um i've probably written more songs 1818 00:55:44,150 --> 00:55:40,640 than days you've lived 1819 00:55:48,950 --> 00:55:44,160 so i'm going to block you now 1820 00:55:50,390 --> 00:55:48,960 after that all right sorry 1821 00:55:51,990 --> 00:55:50,400 i just had to do that because when it 1822 00:55:53,030 --> 00:55:52,000 comes to something that's uh important 1823 00:55:56,950 --> 00:55:53,040 to me like that 1824 00:56:00,150 --> 00:55:56,960 uh i can't deal with it 1825 00:56:02,470 --> 00:56:00,160 so sorry to interrupt you um 1826 00:56:03,910 --> 00:56:02,480 so where do you i know a lot of people 1827 00:56:05,670 --> 00:56:03,920 didn't come here to listen to us 1828 00:56:07,349 --> 00:56:05,680 talk about music it's kind of a selfish 1829 00:56:08,710 --> 00:56:07,359 conversation for me though because you 1830 00:56:10,150 --> 00:56:08,720 just never know if you're gonna get an 1831 00:56:13,510 --> 00:56:10,160 opportunity 1832 00:56:14,470 --> 00:56:13,520 um to talk again so you know i have to 1833 00:56:17,750 --> 00:56:14,480 be sometimes 1834 00:56:19,349 --> 00:56:17,760 but um what do you suggest for us 1835 00:56:20,950 --> 00:56:19,359 to do let's say most people are just 1836 00:56:24,069 --> 00:56:20,960 kind of in the 1837 00:56:26,230 --> 00:56:24,079 coming out of the normal boat and yes 1838 00:56:28,230 --> 00:56:26,240 so to speak and starting to open their 1839 00:56:29,750 --> 00:56:28,240 brain up to the possibility of what else 1840 00:56:32,710 --> 00:56:29,760 exists 1841 00:56:34,309 --> 00:56:32,720 but they're just starting so when they 1842 00:56:35,750 --> 00:56:34,319 get into everything you talk about it 1843 00:56:36,390 --> 00:56:35,760 could be a little bit overwhelming at 1844 00:56:39,270 --> 00:56:36,400 first 1845 00:56:41,190 --> 00:56:39,280 what do you suggest to people like that 1846 00:56:44,069 --> 00:56:41,200 well you have to follow your own 1847 00:56:45,990 --> 00:56:44,079 path and because it may not be your path 1848 00:56:48,069 --> 00:56:46,000 i mean your path may be just simply to 1849 00:56:50,870 --> 00:56:48,079 learn something very simple in life 1850 00:56:52,390 --> 00:56:50,880 uh everybody's on their own little road 1851 00:56:53,589 --> 00:56:52,400 and you've got to pick up on the signals 1852 00:56:54,950 --> 00:56:53,599 that you're getting so you've got your 1853 00:56:55,910 --> 00:56:54,960 dream you've got to work off that and 1854 00:56:56,710 --> 00:56:55,920 you've got to figure out what was that 1855 00:56:58,870 --> 00:56:56,720 about 1856 00:57:00,470 --> 00:56:58,880 and see if you can duplicate it see if 1857 00:57:02,710 --> 00:57:00,480 you can go back to it 1858 00:57:04,549 --> 00:57:02,720 so everybody has to follow uh whatever 1859 00:57:06,710 --> 00:57:04,559 it is because i've i know that 1860 00:57:07,589 --> 00:57:06,720 i i in fact i do the stanton friedman 1861 00:57:10,150 --> 00:57:07,599 files where 1862 00:57:10,710 --> 00:57:10,160 um he's in canada so i've been there 1863 00:57:13,430 --> 00:57:10,720 once 1864 00:57:14,549 --> 00:57:13,440 i'm going there again next month to look 1865 00:57:16,630 --> 00:57:14,559 at his files 1866 00:57:18,150 --> 00:57:16,640 and i always point out to people that he 1867 00:57:19,750 --> 00:57:18,160 spent 61 years 1868 00:57:22,150 --> 00:57:19,760 and he argued with all the top guys 1869 00:57:24,870 --> 00:57:22,160 menzel class 1870 00:57:25,670 --> 00:57:24,880 you know oberg all these top guys the 1871 00:57:26,870 --> 00:57:25,680 head of seti 1872 00:57:28,789 --> 00:57:26,880 all this sort of stuff and he would 1873 00:57:32,150 --> 00:57:28,799 always say hey grant i was in 1874 00:57:33,750 --> 00:57:32,160 i was i was um in a debate at oxford and 1875 00:57:34,549 --> 00:57:33,760 78 percent of the people believe i won 1876 00:57:36,069 --> 00:57:34,559 the debate 1877 00:57:37,750 --> 00:57:36,079 but when you look at his files and you 1878 00:57:38,390 --> 00:57:37,760 say did he ever convince phil class of 1879 00:57:40,230 --> 00:57:38,400 anything 1880 00:57:42,069 --> 00:57:40,240 or james oberg no he didn't convince 1881 00:57:42,710 --> 00:57:42,079 anybody anything people are in their 1882 00:57:44,390 --> 00:57:42,720 little 1883 00:57:46,069 --> 00:57:44,400 they're the you're not going to convince 1884 00:57:46,870 --> 00:57:46,079 anybody so you've got to play your own 1885 00:57:51,349 --> 00:57:46,880 little 1886 00:57:52,630 --> 00:57:51,359 out what why did i come into the world 1887 00:57:54,470 --> 00:57:52,640 and so i say you know if it's a 1888 00:57:55,270 --> 00:57:54,480 reincarnation world then you and i came 1889 00:57:57,430 --> 00:57:55,280 into the world 1890 00:57:58,390 --> 00:57:57,440 to do something and when we leave 1891 00:58:00,549 --> 00:57:58,400 they're going to ask you 1892 00:58:02,309 --> 00:58:00,559 how did it work out because you planned 1893 00:58:03,910 --> 00:58:02,319 it therefore all we have to do is worry 1894 00:58:05,829 --> 00:58:03,920 about what am i here to do 1895 00:58:07,109 --> 00:58:05,839 and am i doing it and don't worry about 1896 00:58:09,030 --> 00:58:07,119 what everybody else is doing 1897 00:58:10,950 --> 00:58:09,040 so people have to sort of pick up on 1898 00:58:12,390 --> 00:58:10,960 their own cues as to 1899 00:58:13,670 --> 00:58:12,400 uh why did they come in the world 1900 00:58:15,030 --> 00:58:13,680 because it may not have anything to do 1901 00:58:16,870 --> 00:58:15,040 with ufos it may 1902 00:58:18,710 --> 00:58:16,880 be whatever that we're all playing 1903 00:58:21,589 --> 00:58:18,720 interesting but but it's all still the 1904 00:58:22,309 --> 00:58:21,599 the the bottom line is that it is it is 1905 00:58:25,109 --> 00:58:22,319 like a 1906 00:58:26,390 --> 00:58:25,119 uh super bowl team that we are all 1907 00:58:27,910 --> 00:58:26,400 supposed to be doing 1908 00:58:29,510 --> 00:58:27,920 something and that the team that wins 1909 00:58:30,789 --> 00:58:29,520 the super bowl is where everybody's 1910 00:58:31,270 --> 00:58:30,799 doing what they're supposed to do so 1911 00:58:34,549 --> 00:58:31,280 we're 1912 00:58:36,230 --> 00:58:34,559 it's like don't you tell me what to do 1913 00:58:37,990 --> 00:58:36,240 i'll do whatever i want to do i'll 1914 00:58:39,349 --> 00:58:38,000 you know and everybody says it's like 1915 00:58:40,710 --> 00:58:39,359 you go in the football huddle 1916 00:58:41,910 --> 00:58:40,720 and the guy says okay we're going to 1917 00:58:42,789 --> 00:58:41,920 we're going to do this and everybody's 1918 00:58:44,549 --> 00:58:42,799 i'm going to block 1919 00:58:45,990 --> 00:58:44,559 you what the hell i'm not blocking you 1920 00:58:46,789 --> 00:58:46,000 get out of here and everybody's doing 1921 00:58:47,990 --> 00:58:46,799 their own thing i mean you're going to 1922 00:58:49,510 --> 00:58:48,000 win the super bowl you're not 1923 00:58:51,430 --> 00:58:49,520 it's everybody has to work together and 1924 00:58:52,950 --> 00:58:51,440 that's the main message that i say 1925 00:58:54,789 --> 00:58:52,960 that the intelligence beyond the ufo 1926 00:58:55,910 --> 00:58:54,799 phenomena is putting out the number one 1927 00:58:58,069 --> 00:58:55,920 message 54 1928 00:58:59,510 --> 00:58:58,079 of all experiences say is oneness you 1929 00:59:01,510 --> 00:58:59,520 have to realize that we are 1930 00:59:02,950 --> 00:59:01,520 all the same thing we're all connected 1931 00:59:05,349 --> 00:59:02,960 that's what kobit presents 1932 00:59:06,630 --> 00:59:05,359 kovitch shows you are connected you may 1933 00:59:07,510 --> 00:59:06,640 not want to be connected yeah right 1934 00:59:09,030 --> 00:59:07,520 right right 1935 00:59:10,390 --> 00:59:09,040 and it's like i call it the oneness 1936 00:59:12,230 --> 00:59:10,400 virus that it's giving you this idea 1937 00:59:13,990 --> 00:59:12,240 that we're all connected we're all one 1938 00:59:15,990 --> 00:59:14,000 and we all have to work together and if 1939 00:59:16,710 --> 00:59:16,000 you have this division of rape pillage 1940 00:59:18,470 --> 00:59:16,720 kill and steal 1941 00:59:19,829 --> 00:59:18,480 everybody's trying to you know out do 1942 00:59:21,910 --> 00:59:19,839 the other person or whatever 1943 00:59:23,910 --> 00:59:21,920 then it's the idea of the gold rush neil 1944 00:59:25,270 --> 00:59:23,920 young after the gold rush the gold will 1945 00:59:26,390 --> 00:59:25,280 be gone and the silver seeds are going 1946 00:59:28,069 --> 00:59:26,400 to come and it's all over 1947 00:59:30,230 --> 00:59:28,079 that we have to realize we have to work 1948 00:59:31,589 --> 00:59:30,240 together as like a football team 1949 00:59:33,030 --> 00:59:31,599 otherwise we're not going to win the 1950 00:59:34,630 --> 00:59:33,040 game and that's the i think the number 1951 00:59:36,150 --> 00:59:34,640 one message they're giving us but as to 1952 00:59:37,430 --> 00:59:36,160 what everybody's role is 1953 00:59:40,150 --> 00:59:37,440 they have to sort of sit down for 1954 00:59:41,990 --> 00:59:40,160 themselves and figure out you know 1955 00:59:43,190 --> 00:59:42,000 what's happening to them and how how it 1956 00:59:46,309 --> 00:59:43,200 fits together 1957 00:59:47,589 --> 00:59:46,319 uh and and maybe maybe some people just 1958 00:59:48,630 --> 00:59:47,599 have to wait for somebody to give them 1959 00:59:50,069 --> 00:59:48,640 the answer i 1960 00:59:51,510 --> 00:59:50,079 i think that when you get the answer 1961 00:59:52,150 --> 00:59:51,520 it's really not going to change you at 1962 00:59:55,349 --> 00:59:52,160 all 1963 00:59:56,870 --> 00:59:55,359 uh but we do have this situation where 1964 00:59:57,990 --> 00:59:56,880 the veil i think is thinning 1965 01:00:00,150 --> 00:59:58,000 where there's more and more people 1966 01:00:01,270 --> 01:00:00,160 coming in whether it's star children or 1967 01:00:02,789 --> 01:00:01,280 whatever you want to call them 1968 01:00:04,470 --> 01:00:02,799 there's more more people coming in who 1969 01:00:07,589 --> 01:00:04,480 have a better understanding 1970 01:00:08,230 --> 01:00:07,599 and you have this higher uh quality of 1971 01:00:10,150 --> 01:00:08,240 science 1972 01:00:11,829 --> 01:00:10,160 where we're starting to talk about uh 1973 01:00:12,549 --> 01:00:11,839 holographic universe we're starting to 1974 01:00:14,710 --> 01:00:12,559 talk about 1975 01:00:16,390 --> 01:00:14,720 simulated theory where people are the 1976 01:00:17,990 --> 01:00:16,400 young people are starting to realize 1977 01:00:19,750 --> 01:00:18,000 hey it may not be nuts and bolts it may 1978 01:00:21,750 --> 01:00:19,760 be this video game 1979 01:00:23,349 --> 01:00:21,760 and even the thing with evil aliens 1980 01:00:24,069 --> 01:00:23,359 there was a study done an interesting 1981 01:00:26,470 --> 01:00:24,079 study done 1982 01:00:27,589 --> 01:00:26,480 with video game people is that people 1983 01:00:29,510 --> 01:00:27,599 say i was in this 1984 01:00:31,030 --> 01:00:29,520 horrible experience and the aliens they 1985 01:00:31,430 --> 01:00:31,040 were just horrible and all this sort of 1986 01:00:33,510 --> 01:00:31,440 stuff 1987 01:00:35,510 --> 01:00:33,520 and i was so scared and whatever and 1988 01:00:37,510 --> 01:00:35,520 when they they did a study at edmonton 1989 01:00:39,430 --> 01:00:37,520 in the university in edmonton alberta 1990 01:00:42,549 --> 01:00:39,440 canada where they did it with 1991 01:00:43,990 --> 01:00:42,559 with kids who were in video games 1992 01:00:45,990 --> 01:00:44,000 and the kids in video games said there's 1993 01:00:48,150 --> 01:00:46,000 an email alien changing me wow 1994 01:00:49,990 --> 01:00:48,160 great let's go let's kill the damn thing 1995 01:00:52,390 --> 01:00:50,000 and it's the whole idea that they're 1996 01:00:53,270 --> 01:00:52,400 used to being in a simulated a visual 1997 01:00:55,750 --> 01:00:53,280 world where they're 1998 01:00:57,670 --> 01:00:55,760 in a game world whereas in the other 1999 01:01:00,630 --> 01:00:57,680 world we're in this victim world 2000 01:01:02,069 --> 01:01:00,640 where so the young generation is going 2001 01:01:04,150 --> 01:01:02,079 to unbe able to understand this and 2002 01:01:05,670 --> 01:01:04,160 that's what i think is going on 2003 01:01:07,990 --> 01:01:05,680 everything's in the field it's all one 2004 01:01:09,910 --> 01:01:08,000 thing and there's a ufo experiencer by 2005 01:01:11,589 --> 01:01:09,920 the name of yossi ronan out of israel 2006 01:01:13,750 --> 01:01:11,599 who talks about the fact that the being 2007 01:01:16,390 --> 01:01:13,760 said to him when we come into your world 2008 01:01:16,950 --> 01:01:16,400 we take a body we need a body to work 2009 01:01:18,950 --> 01:01:16,960 around 2010 01:01:20,390 --> 01:01:18,960 but we can take whatever body we want 2011 01:01:21,030 --> 01:01:20,400 you can do the same thing you just don't 2012 01:01:23,190 --> 01:01:21,040 realize 2013 01:01:24,470 --> 01:01:23,200 so they came in as green beings and he 2014 01:01:27,109 --> 01:01:24,480 said when they left 2015 01:01:28,150 --> 01:01:27,119 they they actually held hands and they 2016 01:01:29,270 --> 01:01:28,160 made a circle and they started going 2017 01:01:30,950 --> 01:01:29,280 faster faster faster 2018 01:01:32,630 --> 01:01:30,960 and they became translucent then they 2019 01:01:33,109 --> 01:01:32,640 turned into light and the ball went into 2020 01:01:53,670 --> 01:01:33,119 a 2021 01:01:55,349 --> 01:01:53,680 the 2022 01:01:57,349 --> 01:01:55,359 after life thing that lesson gained i 2023 01:01:59,510 --> 01:01:57,359 have the hand so the hand comes she 2024 01:02:00,710 --> 01:01:59,520 feels the hand it's as real as can be 2025 01:02:02,630 --> 01:02:00,720 and then the hand goes back and 2026 01:02:04,150 --> 01:02:02,640 disappears again so 2027 01:02:05,910 --> 01:02:04,160 people stuff can come into the physical 2028 01:02:06,309 --> 01:02:05,920 world become physical and then you have 2029 01:02:09,910 --> 01:02:06,319 the 2030 01:02:11,270 --> 01:02:09,920 have to get used to 2031 01:02:13,029 --> 01:02:11,280 is the fact that there are no ufo 2032 01:02:14,870 --> 01:02:13,039 crashes they're crashing this stuff on 2033 01:02:15,589 --> 01:02:14,880 purpose they're dropping metal so people 2034 01:02:16,630 --> 01:02:15,599 are running around 2035 01:02:17,990 --> 01:02:16,640 they're getting these pieces of metal i 2036 01:02:19,750 --> 01:02:18,000 said look it's got this you know it's 2037 01:02:21,109 --> 01:02:19,760 layered it's got these isotopes all 2038 01:02:22,549 --> 01:02:21,119 wrong and whatever and it's the same 2039 01:02:23,510 --> 01:02:22,559 thing it's the theory of wow i even said 2040 01:02:25,510 --> 01:02:23,520 that to help put off 2041 01:02:27,029 --> 01:02:25,520 said hell this is importations it's the 2042 01:02:29,270 --> 01:02:27,039 same thing as seances 2043 01:02:30,470 --> 01:02:29,280 you had this happening in the remote 2044 01:02:32,870 --> 01:02:30,480 viewing it sri 2045 01:02:34,390 --> 01:02:32,880 where pieces were falling falling in the 2046 01:02:35,750 --> 01:02:34,400 in the lab and all these pieces of metal 2047 01:02:36,789 --> 01:02:35,760 were falling and stuff like that i said 2048 01:02:38,789 --> 01:02:36,799 this is not they're not 2049 01:02:40,390 --> 01:02:38,799 you don't come across the galaxy and 2050 01:02:41,990 --> 01:02:40,400 then little pieces start falling off the 2051 01:02:43,670 --> 01:02:42,000 flying saucer so people have these 2052 01:02:45,109 --> 01:02:43,680 bizarre ideas that they adopt 2053 01:02:46,630 --> 01:02:45,119 or that they got hit by lightning it's 2054 01:02:47,750 --> 01:02:46,640 like you come across a galaxy and then 2055 01:02:49,430 --> 01:02:47,760 you get hit by lightning 2056 01:02:50,950 --> 01:02:49,440 and bob bigelow even said that they said 2057 01:02:51,510 --> 01:02:50,960 to bob bigelow who's going to store the 2058 01:02:53,029 --> 01:02:51,520 metal 2059 01:02:54,470 --> 01:02:53,039 and store the material and he's going to 2060 01:02:55,829 --> 01:02:54,480 build these underground bunkers where 2061 01:02:58,150 --> 01:02:55,839 they're going to store the material 2062 01:02:59,670 --> 01:02:58,160 and he said about roswell he said yeah 2063 01:03:00,309 --> 01:02:59,680 there's roswell but there's also a crash 2064 01:03:02,069 --> 01:03:00,319 in russia 2065 01:03:03,829 --> 01:03:02,079 and china and south america i think 2066 01:03:05,589 --> 01:03:03,839 they're sweden 2067 01:03:07,190 --> 01:03:05,599 and he said i think they're seeding it 2068 01:03:08,789 --> 01:03:07,200 they're crashing this stuff on purpose 2069 01:03:10,230 --> 01:03:08,799 they're helping us along a little bit 2070 01:03:12,309 --> 01:03:10,240 they're dropping the stuff they're not 2071 01:03:13,109 --> 01:03:12,319 crashing they they this technology 2072 01:03:15,029 --> 01:03:13,119 doesn't crash 2073 01:03:16,710 --> 01:03:15,039 and we're sort of assuming that there's 2074 01:03:17,270 --> 01:03:16,720 you know there's it's this random world 2075 01:03:19,589 --> 01:03:17,280 where 2076 01:03:21,029 --> 01:03:19,599 uh you know they just accidentally fall 2077 01:03:23,589 --> 01:03:21,039 found the world and then they get hit by 2078 01:03:27,109 --> 01:03:25,670 you sort of make up these stories and in 2079 01:03:28,549 --> 01:03:27,119 the middle i mean i've got pieces i've 2080 01:03:30,309 --> 01:03:28,559 got three pieces of metal i mean this 2081 01:03:31,990 --> 01:03:30,319 metal is all over the place and 2082 01:03:33,270 --> 01:03:32,000 you know we've had in 1939 where it 2083 01:03:34,230 --> 01:03:33,280 comes flying out of the sky into the 2084 01:03:36,390 --> 01:03:34,240 guy's garden 2085 01:03:37,990 --> 01:03:36,400 and it digs its way into the garden and 2086 01:03:39,430 --> 01:03:38,000 it's so hot it's always the same story 2087 01:03:41,029 --> 01:03:39,440 it's hot you can't even pick it up 2088 01:03:42,789 --> 01:03:41,039 and then once it cools down the guy gets 2089 01:03:43,430 --> 01:03:42,799 it he gives it to his daughter she takes 2090 01:03:46,630 --> 01:03:43,440 it to an 2091 01:03:49,510 --> 01:03:46,640 uh a nasa lab in uh um 2092 01:03:51,029 --> 01:03:49,520 in 1968 in in tucson and they can't 2093 01:03:53,430 --> 01:03:51,039 figure out except this 99 2094 01:03:55,349 --> 01:03:53,440 pure nickel nothing in the sky is 99 2095 01:03:57,270 --> 01:03:55,359 percent pure nickel has a 2096 01:03:59,349 --> 01:03:57,280 copper core in the middle and what is it 2097 01:04:00,470 --> 01:03:59,359 it's just to go like and when we saw it 2098 01:04:01,510 --> 01:04:00,480 when we saw the photographs we didn't 2099 01:04:03,029 --> 01:04:01,520 see the actual piece we saw the 2100 01:04:06,150 --> 01:04:03,039 photographs we went 2101 01:04:07,190 --> 01:04:06,160 wow is that cool looking 1939 and that's 2102 01:04:08,710 --> 01:04:07,200 what it is 2103 01:04:10,230 --> 01:04:08,720 it's to stop you in your tracks and you 2104 01:04:12,230 --> 01:04:10,240 go like what is going on here 2105 01:04:14,069 --> 01:04:12,240 and the more we more work on it the more 2106 01:04:14,950 --> 01:04:14,079 we figure out it's not what you think it 2107 01:04:18,069 --> 01:04:14,960 is it is more 2108 01:04:19,829 --> 01:04:18,079 i i will conclude by saying it is 2109 01:04:22,150 --> 01:04:19,839 whatever this phenomena is whatever the 2110 01:04:23,829 --> 01:04:22,160 intelligence is it is 2111 01:04:25,190 --> 01:04:23,839 less physical than you think it is way 2112 01:04:26,870 --> 01:04:25,200 less physical than you think it is 2113 01:04:28,470 --> 01:04:26,880 it is much more spiritual which is 2114 01:04:29,430 --> 01:04:28,480 really going to annoy some people 2115 01:04:31,910 --> 01:04:29,440 and they're going to be fighting over 2116 01:04:33,589 --> 01:04:31,920 the cyanide pills and it's going to be a 2117 01:04:35,510 --> 01:04:33,599 thousand times more complex than people 2118 01:04:37,430 --> 01:04:35,520 think it is i'll guarantee that 2119 01:04:39,349 --> 01:04:37,440 and uh in the eye and there's one in 2120 01:04:40,309 --> 01:04:39,359 this concept that oneness is the key 2121 01:04:41,029 --> 01:04:40,319 message that they're trying to get 2122 01:04:43,270 --> 01:04:41,039 across 2123 01:04:44,309 --> 01:04:43,280 that uh or ronald reagan said how we 2124 01:04:45,990 --> 01:04:44,319 would unite if the 2125 01:04:47,990 --> 01:04:46,000 the world would unite if faced with an 2126 01:04:48,870 --> 01:04:48,000 alien threat we'd all realize we're just 2127 01:04:50,710 --> 01:04:48,880 god's children 2128 01:04:52,630 --> 01:04:50,720 we are all on the same planet and that's 2129 01:04:53,109 --> 01:04:52,640 where edgar mitchell has this oneness 2130 01:04:54,950 --> 01:04:53,119 experience 2131 01:04:57,029 --> 01:04:54,960 where he's looking back at the planet 2132 01:04:57,990 --> 01:04:57,039 and realizing it's just this planet and 2133 01:04:59,190 --> 01:04:58,000 everybody's on there and they're 2134 01:05:01,270 --> 01:04:59,200 they've got all these walls built in 2135 01:05:03,109 --> 01:05:01,280 divisions and and ideas and stuff 2136 01:05:06,150 --> 01:05:03,119 it's all the same planet he sounds like 2137 01:05:09,670 --> 01:05:08,710 he seemed like a really good man yeah 2138 01:05:11,990 --> 01:05:09,680 and he got some 2139 01:05:13,670 --> 01:05:12,000 some insides where he had the material 2140 01:05:15,109 --> 01:05:13,680 you know he got some inside and that's 2141 01:05:15,589 --> 01:05:15,119 the guys i listened to because they were 2142 01:05:17,670 --> 01:05:15,599 on the 2143 01:05:19,349 --> 01:05:17,680 needs board so i listened to everything 2144 01:05:20,710 --> 01:05:19,359 they said because realizing that edgar 2145 01:05:22,710 --> 01:05:20,720 mitchell may have heard something 2146 01:05:24,390 --> 01:05:22,720 that i didn't hear and then he would say 2147 01:05:26,309 --> 01:05:24,400 certain things and you'd realize 2148 01:05:27,750 --> 01:05:26,319 he's the one that you know start talking 2149 01:05:29,430 --> 01:05:27,760 about consciousness as well 2150 01:05:31,190 --> 01:05:29,440 that the consciousness is the basis of 2151 01:05:32,789 --> 01:05:31,200 this whole thing and so 2152 01:05:34,390 --> 01:05:32,799 we're moving along we're starting to 2153 01:05:36,069 --> 01:05:34,400 understand this thing more and more 2154 01:05:37,349 --> 01:05:36,079 people and when i had the consciousness 2155 01:05:38,630 --> 01:05:37,359 experience in 2012 2156 01:05:40,150 --> 01:05:38,640 there was nobody except for colin 2157 01:05:41,029 --> 01:05:40,160 andrews talking about consciousness i 2158 01:05:42,630 --> 01:05:41,039 didn't talk about 2159 01:05:44,230 --> 01:05:42,640 i as i said i couldn't have spelled it i 2160 01:05:45,589 --> 01:05:44,240 couldn't care less and 2161 01:05:46,870 --> 01:05:45,599 now everybody's using even the people 2162 01:05:49,190 --> 01:05:46,880 who don't understand consciousness 2163 01:05:50,390 --> 01:05:49,200 they're saying 2164 01:05:55,190 --> 01:05:50,400 because you know you got to say that 2165 01:05:58,390 --> 01:05:57,349 yeah all right well i appreciate you 2166 01:06:00,950 --> 01:05:58,400 stopping by here 2167 01:06:01,510 --> 01:06:00,960 and um talking with us and everybody it 2168 01:06:08,549 --> 01:06:01,520 was 2169 01:06:10,069 --> 01:06:08,559 so um yeah i can only hope i get another 2170 01:06:10,870 --> 01:06:10,079 opportunity to speak with you down the 2171 01:06:13,109 --> 01:06:10,880 road 2172 01:06:14,150 --> 01:06:13,119 okay sean thank you all right thanks 2173 01:06:18,309 --> 01:06:14,160 great have a good one 2174 01:06:20,950 --> 01:06:18,319 you bet bye bye 2175 01:06:21,990 --> 01:06:20,960 all right so that was really fun uh 2176 01:06:25,670 --> 01:06:22,000 grant 2177 01:06:28,549 --> 01:06:25,680 is uh very cool to talk to um 2178 01:06:30,870 --> 01:06:28,559 most definitely uh hopefully i get to 2179 01:06:32,950 --> 01:06:30,880 talk to him again at some point because 2180 01:06:33,910 --> 01:06:32,960 definitely with him it you know just 2181 01:06:37,109 --> 01:06:33,920 didn't feel like 2182 01:06:41,270 --> 01:06:37,119 enough um but 2183 01:06:43,109 --> 01:06:41,280 maybe um you know a different time 2184 01:06:45,589 --> 01:06:43,119 yeah i know that's what i mean it i 2185 01:06:47,349 --> 01:06:45,599 wanted to ask him about psilocybin yes 2186 01:06:49,349 --> 01:06:47,359 and i was actually going to ask him 2187 01:06:53,270 --> 01:06:49,359 about indica 2188 01:06:55,349 --> 01:06:53,280 or sativa but he talks 2189 01:06:57,109 --> 01:06:55,359 and he doesn't leave much room and when 2190 01:07:00,230 --> 01:06:57,119 he talks he's interesting 2191 01:07:02,069 --> 01:07:00,240 so then i listen and then i forget 2192 01:07:04,789 --> 01:07:02,079 so maybe does that on purpose i don't 2193 01:07:05,029 --> 01:07:04,799 know um but it was awesome talking to 2194 01:07:08,470 --> 01:07:05,039 him 2195 01:07:09,990 --> 01:07:08,480 so i appreciate you guys coming here um 2196 01:07:11,510 --> 01:07:10,000 there were a couple snooty people in 2197 01:07:14,950 --> 01:07:11,520 here i kicked them out 2198 01:07:18,549 --> 01:07:14,960 um just don't want to have to deal 2199 01:07:22,150 --> 01:07:18,559 uh with uh condescending kind of stuff 2200 01:07:22,870 --> 01:07:22,160 you know um you know we all make 2201 01:07:26,150 --> 01:07:22,880 mistakes 2202 01:07:28,309 --> 01:07:26,160 so do i um but 2203 01:07:30,470 --> 01:07:28,319 the more we can do to stop those things 2204 01:07:31,990 --> 01:07:30,480 the better right 2205 01:07:33,829 --> 01:07:32,000 thanks megan i appreciate it i 2206 01:07:37,829 --> 01:07:33,839 appreciate it very much 2207 01:07:43,029 --> 01:07:41,430 and yeah so 2208 01:07:45,670 --> 01:07:43,039 yeah realize that we're not perfect you 2209 01:07:48,710 --> 01:07:45,680 know we can't screw up it's gonna happen 2210 01:07:51,190 --> 01:07:48,720 um but you gotta be able to forgive 2211 01:07:54,829 --> 01:07:51,200 yourself and move on 2212 01:07:56,150 --> 01:07:54,839 all right y'all thanks for hanging out 2213 01:07:59,270 --> 01:07:56,160 um 2214 01:08:01,190 --> 01:07:59,280 tomorrow we had uh chrissy newton but we 2215 01:08:03,750 --> 01:08:01,200 have to reschedule that 2216 01:08:05,510 --> 01:08:03,760 um something came up on her and so we 2217 01:08:07,990 --> 01:08:05,520 rescheduled it for 2218 01:08:09,109 --> 01:08:08,000 uh sometime in later august so we're 2219 01:08:12,549 --> 01:08:09,119 gonna do that 2220 01:08:15,750 --> 01:08:12,559 um so tomorrow i will either 2221 01:08:17,430 --> 01:08:15,760 um take off or it'll just be me we'll 2222 01:08:24,709 --> 01:08:17,440 see 2223 01:08:41,870 --> 01:08:24,719 and thanks again bringing up peace 2224 01:08:41,880 --> 01:08:50,829 [Music] 2225 01:09:03,690 --> 01:08:52,889 so